RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester

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JasonM

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Joined: Dec. 8 2005
From: Baltimore

RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to estebanana)

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The GenZ proclaims the environment is toxic

Ain’t dat da truth. At least the Gen Z was willing to drink Guinness. I self identify as a pint of Guinnes and not as a White Russian.

Anyway, nice looking Blanca. It looks like there are golpe marks from not having a golpeador. Or am I just seeing a picture artifact?
Did you receive the guitar with low tension strings? He might have done the setup with a medium/normal tension set.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 20 2023 0:40:39

bahen

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Joined: Mar. 4 2006

RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to estebanana)

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Next time you change strings get the proper straight little metal bar and rock the frets. You probably have a fret that’s a tiny bit too high. There are numerous videos on YouTube etc that give tutorials on how to do this.

Thanks, Stephen. Will do.

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It looks like there are golpe marks from not having a golpeador. Or am I just seeing a picture artifact? Did you receive the guitar with low tension strings? He might have done the setup with a medium/normal tension set.

That would be absolutely criminal! No, it's the removable film on the new golpeador.

Ashamed to say, but I didn't know a guitar could be set up for different tensions. What's the difference?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 20 2023 11:20:36

JasonM

Posts: 2055
Joined: Dec. 8 2005
From: Baltimore

RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to bahen)

Ahh the plastic film!

Felipe ideally would have setup the guitar with normal tension and some wiggle room on the saddle to go up or down. It’s possible that if the action is already low, you could get some buzz. Depends also on:
how hard you strike the stings,
gravitational pull from the moon,
scale length,
string brand,
soundboard stiffness…
(not gonna say the P-Word)

If you’ve never tried a medium tension I would! Let them sink in for a week or two! Check out the saddle and the action at the twelfth fret.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2023 14:49:17

bahen

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Joined: Mar. 4 2006

RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to JasonM)

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If you’ve never tried a medium tension I would! Let them sink in for a week or two! Check out the saddle and the action at the twelfth fret.

It originally had medium tension, and this set is actually my first low tension in a long time. Thought I'd give them a try on the new guitar. I think I'll swap back to medium or possibly try hard after these.

So, a question for the luthiers especially, how does tension interact with action?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 22 2023 23:23:52

Ricardo

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Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC

RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to bahen)

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ORIGINAL: bahen

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If you’ve never tried a medium tension I would! Let them sink in for a week or two! Check out the saddle and the action at the twelfth fret.

It originally had medium tension, and this set is actually my first low tension in a long time. Thought I'd give them a try on the new guitar. I think I'll swap back to medium or possibly try hard after these.

So, a question for the luthiers especially, how does tension interact with action?

Hard tension strings (relative concept) will make the action feel a little stiffer or higher above the fingerboard, and less snappy on the right hand (as if you are playing closer to the bridge). They can be an option for a guitar that is too soft before simply raising the bone saddle or making a new bone. And vice versa, you can use lower tension strings and the guitar gets softer and easier to play, snappier on the right hand, etc., without having to lower the saddle. The trade off is volume (mainly in the bass). That is why a lot of new guitars come fitted with high tension strings, to give the illusion that the guitar is louder than average. Same with high bone saddle set ups. The first thing I do with a new guitar is change the strings to see what I am dealing with truly.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2023 11:44:47