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Andy Culpepper

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Baroque rasgueados 

Really cool video from Brandon Acker (he has a great channel all around) about the baroque guitar:


He talks about rasgueado techniques at 2:30. Call me ignorant but I thought flamencos invented some of these things! The one he describes is pretty darn close to Marote's famous triplet except it's a four stroke. I guess it makes sense that the gitanos would just adapt earlier guitar playing techniques to accompany the cante and baile. I knew this but I never really thought about these techniques going back 400 years or more. Maybe there was already some gypsy influence by then. Of course the Moorish influence goes back much further and stuff like alzapúa can be traced back to oud techniques. Flamenco really is an interesting melting pot.

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Ricardo

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RE: Baroque rasgueados (in reply to Andy Culpepper

He says they use the paintings as evidence for how they played? 😂

But what evidence shows rasgueado combos? Gaspar Sanz book just had stroke directions, but not finger combos. I’m just curious where these guys found the specific strumming instructions.

Finally I don’t understand why, if the guitar is truly baroque, they don’t just have some luthier repair it?

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RE: Baroque rasgueados (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

Finally I don’t understand why, if the guitar is truly baroque, they don’t just have some luthier repair it?


Thad-a-thump.
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devilhand

 

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RE: Baroque rasgueados (in reply to Andy Culpepper

This guy didnt loose a single word about flamenco in the whole damn video. If he's demonstrating rasgueado or rather abanico and playing spanish sounding stuff he should have mentioned flamenco guitar.

As for sexual promiscuity (at 9:09 onwards in the video), it's funk music rather than rock'n'roll.
I totally dig the causal chain. Sexual promiscuity -> Street fights -> Man slaughter

It must have been like
A: Don't mess around with my chick
B: You too. Bang! Boom!

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Andy Culpepper

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RE: Baroque rasgueados (in reply to Ricardo

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He says they use the paintings as evidence for how they played? 😂

But what evidence shows rasgueado combos? Gaspar Sanz book just had stroke directions, but not finger combos. I’m just curious where these guys found the specific strumming instructions.

Finally I don’t understand why, if the guitar is truly baroque, they don’t just have some luthier repair it?


I would guess they use the paintings to show playing positions?

There is an article here that goes into it a little, mentioning the "repicco" and a couple other simple down-up variations:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/841425?seq=1

I would fix the guitar but I don't have any experience with sheepskin

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