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Ricardo

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Paco tutorial 6 

A little Spanglish this time



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 25 2020 17:50:57
 
mt1007

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

Ole y gracias Ricardo. Aver si me la aprendo esta ultima parte de la Guajira.

Saludos hombre!
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Piwin

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

Olé thanks Ricardo!
This piece has a bunch of choke points for me (most of them involve the parts with picado. No surprise there ). I can't wait to watch your breakdown when work finally slows down a bit.

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JasonM

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

Always look forward to these installments! Great teaching as always. This piece almost seems like a right of passage to master the arp-picado transitions. All the pro players can play it. The section at the 11 fret looks especially daunting. Whew! I might start working on one tiny part for an exercise.
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mark indigo

 

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

nice to see your solutions to some of those tricky parts. I will try them out.

First time I worked on this I got to the difficult falseta in the middle that goes up high at 10th fret (sin cejilla) and gave up. Second attempt I got past that but got bogged down in the chords with the slurs.... maybe I will finally get all the way through some time!

thanks for taking the time to make this vid.

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Ricardo

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to mark indigo

I realize I skipped the slur section in the tutorial because whenever I get to that section it’s like I breathe a big sigh of relief, like “wooo, I made it... finish line up ahead”. After the fact I realized that those slurs might be really hairy for some folks, my bad. If I get some requests I might augment it with a break down of all that stuff.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 27 2020 23:53:09
 
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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

I very much enjoy these, gracias maestro, grande!

saludos desde la costa noroeste de cadiz
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orsonw

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

Thank you Ricardo. I am never going to attempt this but I still enjoy watching. Your careful breakdown helps me to further appreciate Paco's genius. Then after deepening my understanding I watch him playing it, and it's as if I've never seen him before. His amazing talent almost seems unbelievable.
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Auda

 

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

Thanks for the video Ricardo. Just after the 18.00 you talk, I think, about starting the picado run with the i finger. Earlier I think you said something about thinking about picado runs as 3 notes. Does that mean you start every 3 with the i finger in a run?

Cheers
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 29 2020 14:19:52
 
Ricardo

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Auda

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ORIGINAL: Auda

Thanks for the video Ricardo. Just after the 18.00 you talk, I think, about starting the picado run with the i finger. Earlier I think you said something about thinking about picado runs as 3 notes. Does that mean you start every 3 with the i finger in a run?

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The vast majority I think, when ascending. But it depends. If I’m learning I simply try both and settle for the more comfortable one, and if both are equally awkward feeling I will examine left hand options. That’s basically the deal with the bit at 46:00

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 29 2020 14:38:50
 
Auda

 

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

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The vast majority I think, when ascending.


That's interesting. When I was originally working on speed I muted the strings and snapped off imi followed by mim etc trying to make sure both speed and sound were exactly the same. After that, for me, it has now become interchangeable. I would have thought that was fairly standard but what do I know - as I said previously I do not get out much musically.

Cheers for the response.

PS have yet to get to the 46.00 mark.
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Ricardo

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Auda

quote:

ORIGINAL: Auda

quote:

The vast majority I think, when ascending.


That's interesting. When I was originally working on speed I muted the strings and snapped off imi followed by mim etc trying to make sure both speed and sound were exactly the same. After that, for me, it has now become interchangeable. I would have thought that was fairly standard but what do I know - as I said previously I do not get out much musically.

Cheers for the response.

PS have yet to get to the 46.00 mark.


That’s actually a very good exercise for right hand. Again I will try things starting both ways because sometimes the problems don’t occur at the start but later on in a fast passage. I have simply noticed in this particular piece after working a lot on pacos fingerings, that I was fighting an uphill battle unnecessarily.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 1 2020 15:01:25
 
Auda

 

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

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Again I will try things starting both ways because sometimes the problems don’t occur at the start but later on in a fast passage. I have simply noticed in this particular piece after working a lot on pacos fingerings, that I was fighting an uphill battle unnecessarily.


However you go about it you seem to make it appear pretty effortless.
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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

Thank you, Ricardo. I picked up another couple of ideas from this (as I have before when we'd discuss it in the Ramzi Guajiras de Lucia project thread. Another couple of weeks to absorb them and I should really record my progress, with capo at 1, as I keep threatening.

BTW, when you say in the video that the tempo gets ramped up after the intro, I figured out a way to "see it" as the same tempo - for both intro and body of the piece - and thus I can keep a metronome going from the beginning at the same pace for practice. It fits with the actual speed of both pretty well.

At the recording's speed, if one gets a metronome going at 100 clicks/min, the clicks happen here for the intro:




And here for the main body of the piece:



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Ricardo

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to kitarist

Good idea. I often use a metronome that has a 3/4 option where you have a different sounding click on the “one” if you want. So in this case I would have to go with straight click only or again change the click to 2/4 for the double time section.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 3 2020 0:26:05
 
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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to kitarist

quote:

Ramzi Guajiras de Lucia project thread


I will revive this, I tell ya!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 4 2020 2:10:56
 
mark indigo

 

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to kitarist

quote:

I figured out a way to "see it" as the same tempo - for both intro and body of the piece - and thus I can keep a metronome going from the beginning at the same pace for practice.

i also figured this out and practised this way.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 4 2020 9:05:15
 
mark indigo

 

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

I realize I skipped the slur section in the tutorial because whenever I get to that section it’s like I breathe a big sigh of relief, like “wooo, I made it... finish line up ahead”. After the fact I realized that those slurs might be really hairy for some folks, my bad. If I get some requests I might augment it with a break down of all that stuff.

it wasn't that i found the slur section particularly difficult, i think i was just too exhausted by the effort of learning the previous bit to carry on!

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Cervantes

 

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RE: Paco tutorial 6 (in reply to Ricardo

Thanks Ricardo.
I worked on this piece for awhile.
The hardest part for me was there is a lot of horizontal stretching needed, something I am not so good at.
It all begins at the third chord, a capo helps some.
Here is another good rendition where you can see the fingers real well.
Extremely well played, but not as good as the Paco video IMO.



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