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JasonM

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RE: sheet music for organ/flamenco g... (in reply to devilhand) 
This is high level Ricardo stuff or Jason McGuire- playing , rather attempting, Bach violin presto movements with only picado.
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Ricardo

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RE: sheet music for organ/flamenco g... (in reply to devilhand) 
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ORIGINAL: devilhand

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You maybe forgot that guitar music sounds one octave lower than written. Middle C in treble clef for all other instruments is on the first ledger line BELOW the staff. C4.

Where's middle C on guitar? On 5th string 3rd fret?


1st fret second string...that note is middle C or C4. The note you describe is low C (C3) and 8th fret first string is called high C or tenor high C (C5).

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Ricardo

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RE: sheet music for organ/flamenco g... (in reply to kitarist) 
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Any screwups, or further modifications?


Yes, well it is almost exactly what I played (not including mistakes lol) but now we can go to the details if you want.

Measures 5,6,7 the double stop thirds, I am only doing the middle bass notes so the thumb is playing only 8th notes (bass goes C#-G#-B-F# etc). I know it doesn’t sound as cool but my idea was to get the speed up and that this would be possible. I do manage the overlapping double stops in measures 8 and 10 so those are fine as written.

The C# bass on Beat 3 of bar 18 I have to do an octave higher in order to reach up to that G#. The double stops in 19 and 20 same deal as before...only doing every other bass note. I manage to actually do beat 2 in bar 20 as written. Funny to notice it is a 2/4 bar...that was not Bach’s intention keep in mind, he did that on occasion to save paper obviously. Measure 21 doesn’t “exist” in other words, it is simply beats 3 and 4 of measure 20.

Measure 23 I misspoke earlier, it stays down an octave on beat 3, beat 4 is where it goes up as you have it. So the big change I do is measure 27, I can’t do all the double stops so again I am doing every other note of the bass part starting on beat 2. So the very ending I do as written until beat 2 I play this:

E—12————-11—————9————————-
B—9—————-9—————9—————————
G—9—————11—————9————————-
D——————-10————————————11—
A—11—11————-9—————————11——
E—————————————-9—-9-12————-

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RE: sheet music for organ/flamenco g... (in reply to Ricardo) 
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it is almost exactly what I played (not including mistakes lol) but now we can go to the details if you want.


Sure why not; it only takes seconds in a music editor for these kinds of modifications. Will post it later today or tomorrow.

I note the tempo is indicated as 94; so is Gould unusual in playing it 'too fast' at 120?

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Ricardo

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RE: sheet music for organ/flamenco g... (in reply to kitarist) 
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I note the tempo is indicated as 94; so is Gould unusual in playing it 'too fast' at 120?


No that is what the score I used says (120bpm) from the version published in late 1884. Actually he kicks it off faster then slows to about 118bpm for most of it. Not sure how old tempo markings go but bach doesn’t use it in the surviving autograph of book 2 (only one fuga survives in Bach’s hand...the piece I play is based on Magdalena’s hand written version I think).

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 15 2020 21:55:27
 
kitarist

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RE: sheet music for organ/flamenco g... (in reply to Ricardo) 
OK. Something like this; hopefully close enough. Can't get Got rid of the 'piano' label and added 'Capo at -1'

Can also add link to a pdf if this below checks out.





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Ricardo

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RE: sheet music for organ/flamenco g... (in reply to kitarist) 
Yep that’s it!

But lets leave it at 100bpm to be realistic

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kitarist

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RE: sheet music for organ/flamenco g... (in reply to Ricardo) 
OK, here's a link to the pdf file (see below).

Semi-final look:





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Ricardo

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RE: sheet music for organ/flamenco g... (in reply to kitarist) 
Measure 22 first beat F# I do up an octave, sorry

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kitarist

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RE: sheet music for organ/flamenco g... (in reply to Ricardo) 
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Measure 22 first beat F# I do up an octave, sorry


BOOO!!!

Here's the newly-updated pdf.

I bumped up the tempo by two clicks in lieu of punishment





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Ricardo

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RE: sheet music for organ/flamenco g... (in reply to kitarist) 
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You have any suggestions ideas of organ/flamenco combo.


Do the Bach Chorale BWV 305 that Ricardo fashioned into a flamenco piece ( http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=322053 ). The organ can play the choir parts (it's actually a great fit for this), you play Ricardo's "choraleá" from the second part of his video:






I uploaded my own score for the chorale here:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=322053&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

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