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Ricardo
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Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC
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RE: Technique question (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)
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ORIGINAL: Pgh_flamenco quote:
Apparently so that he can identify, by what people are playing, if it were one of his transcriptions and thus catch people who got it without paying :-) Absurd don't you think? Who would play the wrong notes? I bought an arrangement of a Bach piece in the 80's which had some incorrect notes in it. I was familiar with the song so I simply replaced the wrong notes with the correct ones when I memorized it. I hadn't been playing guitar for that long. When the only way to copy sheet music was to use a photocopier it made sense to include wrong notes as a sort of proof mark. If someone was dumb enough to copy or publish the arrangement it would be obvious. I’ve related the story in the past. He was proud of his work... he could have been hired by plygram or hispavox if the publisher gave two sh1ts about flamenco, which they don’t of course. So we either get no score or bs scores used only for collecting royalties. Under the table BY EAR is the god damn tradition of learning flamenco, so arguing about hand written scores is freaking hilarious. Every flamenco guitarist makes his own by ear transcriptions illegally inother words... including sabicas who slowed down the turns of his montoya records to learn up in Pamplona. That is just as illegal as putting pen to paper In any case, Faucher’s mistakes came in handy after he started publishing legit books (that myself and msybe 5 other guys ever bought? Lol), and lazy guys like over at encuentro end up just copying whatever he did for Moraito nunez or tomatito for example, only adjusting for specific obvious deviation from say the original recorded versions. Low and behold the tiny subtle mistakes are copied and NOTICED by Faucher (and myself to be honest, like a kid cheating on his math test, same correct and same mistakes), and yes he call marcel edge or whoever over there in Switzerland and cussed them out over the phone for stealing his work. Seriously doubt any thing else came out if it than the scolding. I noticed some Faucher errors by jorge Berges as well, so the guy is not kidding, people steal his stuff and pass it off out of laziness regardless of the (c) going on, which is a joke anyway. About sabicas score above first G example... there is no Open G and no golpe either, just some fret buzz.
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Date Nov. 5 2019 13:30:38
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Piwin
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Joined: Feb. 9 2016
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RE: Technique question (in reply to Auda)
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I didn't realise I was in such an exclusive group having purchased one of his books It would probably help his case if his website wasn't so...well...behind the times? Maybe that's the most polite way of putting it. It doesn't exactly make purchasing easy. His books (like the Rey del Flamenco transcription book) are easy to buy through other platforms but a lot of stand-alone transcriptions (just one piece, often manuscript) are passed around fairly commonly. On the foro everyone avoids that, as the rules state that you can't: quote:
4. Upload, or otherwise make available, files that contain images, photographs, software or other material protected by (i) intellectual property laws, including, by way of example, and not as limitation, copyright or trademark laws or (ii) by rights of privacy or publicity, if any unless you own or control the rights thereto or have received all necessary consents to do the same. (makes me wonder if it was alright to post those few screenshots. I'm fairly certain that under French law posting one page like that is fine, but I don't really know for other countries) But IRL those things are passed around without a care in the world for IPR. There's probably a comparison to be made with jazz fake books. In many ways, youtube has made transcriptions more or less obsolete. I learned Aires de Puerto Real from that recording of Javier Conde. I have the transcription too, but it's more of a back-up I guess. A better student would have been able to pick it up from the audio recording of Sabicas alone, but I have a much easier time seeing someone play it. I learned Riqueni's Brisas with a video of Grisha. So, even when you can't find video of the original composer/performer, you can often find versions by reputable players.
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