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manlargentina

 

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Interested in flamenco with more mod... 

Im a guitar player, and I like flamenco, but i like many other styles too. Im trying to find some groups (instrumental only) that have a flamenco base but incorporating other things too. What do you recommend me ? I preffer instrumental music.
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Dudnote

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

Manolo Sanlucar's Al Viento is a great disk to have in the car.

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Ricardo

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

Start with a list of what you already are familiar with and like.

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manlargentina

 

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to Dudnote

@Dudnote Thanks, going to check it.

@Ricardo The problem is I dont have an example. But, just that, flamenco with modern touches. The late Paco de Lucia´s conserts could be an example, but more "modern" than that im looking for, anything that have a flamenco base but goes beyond that, im looking to hear.

I mean, maybe about the arrengements, more complex and orchestrated arrengements Ill like to listen. Some variation.
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Ricardo

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

Ok:
Manolo Sanlucar Tauromagia
Gerardo Nuñez Jucal
Vicente Amigo Vivencias Imaginadas
Tomatito Paseo de los castaños
Enrique del Melchor Cuchichi
Antonio Rey Colores del fuego

To get ya started

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Goldwinghai

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

Paco Cepero Agua Marina. His Agua Marina CD may have more.
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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

quote:

I mean, maybe about the arrengements, more complex and orchestrated arrengements Ill like to listen. Some variation.


How about Flamenco Piano with a sprincal of some calo lyrics??
Dorantes Orobroy is a good one to get you hooked

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

I know exactly what you are looking for:

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quote:

I know exactly what you are looking for:




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RobF

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to JasonM

quote:

I know exactly what you are looking for:


Oh man...I was going to post that, but I chickened out!

As soon as I heard it was in Barcelona that Paco’s guitar went missing, it wasn’t too hard to figure out who the culprit probably was...
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RobF

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

Joking aside...there was a thread on Flamenco Jazz not that long ago that posted videos of some of the Madrid players who are involved in that. It’s not all instrumental music, however, it brings cante into the mix, too.
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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

Myrddin - Rosa de Papel

Jose Manuel Leon - Sirimusa

Diego del Morao - Orate

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Piwin

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

You'd have to distinguish between "modern" flamenco and fusion. Most of the recommendations above are "modern" but don't fit the description of incorporating elements from other genres necessarily. My understanding of it is that "modern" toque has very little to do with imports from other genres and everything to do with how they approach syncopation. Ricardo has explained this very well in too many threads to count (if you use the search bar and look up stuff like "modern or traditional" or something like that you're bound to find it).
On the fusion front there's a pretty wide range, qawwali flamenco (Chicuelo), Indian/flamenco (Pepe Habichuela, Norah Jones's sister, I'm guessing she has a name? Sister Jones?), flamenco jazz (Ojesto, Pardo) "trans-Mediterranean" flamenco (Radio Tarifa), flamenco pop (Ketama, Pata Negra), Cuban/flamenco (Valdez), "WTF-I-mean-seriously-why-on-earth-would-anyone-do-that-enco" (electrolé), "I-sound-like-a-dying-cat-enco" (Nino de Elche), "Believed-to-be-flamenco-by-every-girlfriend-you've-ever-had-but-not-actually-flamenco-enco" (Rodrigo y Gabriela), etc.
But yeah I'd distinguish between the two. Modern toque doesn't seem to be all that informed by the fusion stuff and the fusion stuff isn't necessarily "modern".

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manlargentina

 

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to Piwin

Yes Piwin, I know was too short trying to explain what im looking for, and you are right, I forgot that "modern" in flamenco means what you described, and yes, Im looking for something more... fusion.

Im not so interested in jazz-flamenco because at least some of the jazz flamenco ive heard doesnt like me, some people just put a soft jazz piano mixed with some flamenco and thats "new", and boring. Lately ive been listening lot of jazz, which its good to learn something new, i like to learn the new scales and i can take some things but its not really my thing. But if theres a good flamenco-jazz i would like to hear it.

Cuban-flamenco sounds interesting, cuban music have such great arrengements and mix it with flamenco sounds good, never thought about it.

Im looking for something that can go beyond of the flamenco about the arrengements, and sounds.

Anyway thanks all for reply.

Also interested in listen some flamenco-arabian, years ago i passed through a place in Catamarca (Argentina) with a sign outside saying "Today Flamenco", and enter, the man who played incorpores very arabian roots to his flamenco, I think is more arabian than flamenco, if any wants to listen it he is Elias Esper, great to listen.

Really want to listen some flamenco with oud in it.






with oud, or lute not sure

This music of this composer its not really what im looking for, just a side not to show you, if this kind of music have more instruments, more elaborated, then would be what im looking for, anyway I bought his CD when went to see him play and its very good, just guitar and percussion, in the clips maybe dont appreaciate the arabian roots on his flamenco mixture.
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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

Also Jesus Guerrero, and anything by Chicuelo
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Piwin

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

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Really want to listen some flamenco with oud in it.


Look up El Amir. There's often an oud not far around in his stuff.


Though the connection with flamenco isn't always there (pretty eclectic guy).
Probably the band he's most famous for:


Otherwise there's been plenty of projects like this where it's a sort of back and forth but it tends to be focused on the singing.



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Fitz63

 

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to Piwin

French guitarist Juan Carmona springs to mind.



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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

Castro Marin Live One Summer Night: PdL
Flamenco Jazz: Iturralde Quintet + PdL
Friday Night in San Francisco: DiMeola, McLauchglin, Pdl
Flamenco Fusion: Jan Hengmith
Fandangos in Space: Carmen
Camino del alba: Bernardo Sandoval

come to mind

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RobF

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

Vicente Amigo’s “Tierra” also springs to mind. That album brings traditional Irish into the mix.
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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

John Amir Haddad

Antonio Rey

Samuelito

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RE: Interested in flamenco with more... (in reply to manlargentina

Check out "Son de la Frontera"

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Pata Negra



Son de la Frontera



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