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crooksj5

 

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Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! 

Hey everyone,

No affiliation with the store, but just wanted to give a heads up;

https://www.facebook.com/1594100080718310/posts/1820389361422713/

40% off sale


Have fun! :)
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 15 2018 16:59:54
 
rombsix

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

How does it work? I went to the .com website but nothing there?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 15 2018 19:53:21
 
crooksj5

 

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

you just have to call them, it’s 40% off online price
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 15 2018 20:55:07
 
rombsix

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

That's insane, man - why would they do that? Fishy, no?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 15 2018 23:39:54
 
crooksj5

 

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

Not totally sure, they did it during Black Friday also. I grabbed a guitar during that sale and it went smoothly my guitar was a little “shop worn” but that’s it.

My guess;

1. Rent in LA is HIGH

2. The guitars may be sitting for too long

3. Trying to get some sort of customer base established

4. All of the above could be totally wrong and I have no clue 😆 haha
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 16 2018 0:04:19
 
rombsix

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

quote:

4. All of the above could be totally wrong and I have no clue 😆 haha




I mean, if the list price was hypothetically 1,000 bucks and you get it for 600 then sell it for 800 a month later, that's still a reasonable investment LOL

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 16 2018 1:15:46
 
Leñador

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

Hmmmm, maybe worth making the schlep over there.......

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NewPlayer

 

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

They have less than 5 guitars available. Is there there complete inventory in LA?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 16 2018 3:56:30
 
JasonM

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to NewPlayer

The only two guitars I see if interest are the Conde and the Francisco SANCHEZ - which from the pics does not look like very high quality wood - hence the 40% off discount
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 16 2018 13:58:35
 
crooksj5

 

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

You guys crack me up haha

These are the same makers that Solera Flamenca Barcelona sells for full price. Some of whom are the popular flamenco builders from southern Spain. Gonzalez-Lopez, Jose Fuentes, Francisco Sanchez, and Jesús Jimenez are all pretty big names in that scene.

If the luthiers on this forum did a 40% off sale, people would be pooping their pants over it!!!

Not trying to convince anyone (like any of us need convincing to buy a new guitar lol). just pointing out a great deal!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 16 2018 15:18:54
 
rombsix

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

Apparently the 40% only applies to the guitars physically located in LA at this moment, and not to any of their stock that is in Barcelona.

https://www.soleraflamencalosangeles.com/new-flamenco-guitars/

https://www.soleraflamencalosangeles.com/used-flamenco-guitars/

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 16 2018 23:07:39
 
Richard Jernigan

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to JasonM

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ORIGINAL: JasonM

The only two guitars I see if interest are the Conde and the Francisco SANCHEZ - which from the pics does not look like very high quality wood - hence the 40% off discount


I have written on the Foro that I think when a guitar reaches a certain level of quality, there is no “better” or “worse,” just “different. “

I don’t know whether any of these guitars qualifies for the top tier, but I do know that I have never played a classical that I would say is better than my 1973 Romanillos, #407.

I have been told it is the one just before Bream’s famous #501. #407 is the 7th and last of the 4xx series design, “modeled on” a 1950 Hauser; #501 is the first of the 5xx series, modeled on a Hauser from the 1930s.

The grain of the #407 top is very broad near the center line. It narrows down considerably toward the sides, but substantially broadens again further out. I saw Bream’s guitar up close. The top was obviously from the same tree as #407.

When I visited Abel Garcia in Paracho to order an instrument I told him which Romanillos I had, and that I liked it. Garcia worked twice as Romanillos’s only assistant at his summer course in Guijosa. Garcia showed me some wood Romanillos had given him “from early in his career.” They could have been the next boards in the tree from #407 and #501.

I chose the straight grained, quarter sawn Brazilian for the back and sides from Garcia’s excellent stash—after he had told me he could make an equally good guitar from three other woods, and that using Brazilian for a guitar was “like putting jewelry on it.”

He told me he would have chosen a different set of Brazilian. He showed me a slab cut set. “Why this one, because it is slab cut?”

“El corte no importa mucho,” he replied. “Esta madera es mas blanda.” [“The cut is not particularly important. This wood is softer”] He assured me it was not really a big deal if I liked the quarter sawn set better. I took him at his word. He has published an authoritative book on guitar making woods, which I had a chance to look over at Richard Brune’s shop.

I said, “You choose the top Maestro. You are the expert.” I didn’t even look at tops.

When the guitar arrived, the top had an extremely fine, very regular and straight grain, with a lot of “silk,” and no runout. I phoned Garcia to tell him how pleased I was with the instrument. We talked for a while, then I commented, “You didn’t use the Romanillos wood...’

“It’s some of the best wood I have,” he replied, “but you might have a hard time selling a guitar that looks like that.”

RNJ
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 17 2018 3:48:15
 
Arash

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to rombsix

quote:

ORIGINAL: rombsix

That's insane, man - why would they do that? Fishy, no?


Its end of year, businesses need cash, pay bills, unload and empty the old stocks, etc. etc. , If you have too many guitars sitting around and the cash flow decreases, then thats dangerous.

Also you have to see carefully 40% off of WHICH price? If the base price was too high, then it is a "normal" deal...if the base price was fair already, then 40% off that is an amazing deal. Also which guitars? hard to sell guitars or popular guitars?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 17 2018 10:48:56
 
JasonM

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to Richard Jernigan

Hey Richard, I agree with what you are saying about the looks of the wood vs sound quality. This guitar sounds pretty good - through the internet anyway, in person may be different. But you can see in the video that the top has a bit of runout too, and I’m thinking maybe the Luthier built this guitar with low grade wood (aesthetically) for Solera flamenca to have a nice return margin. Then again, maybe not! It does have fustero tuners and comes with a Rolex.

Your Ramanillos sounds like a really special guitar. You passed on some straight grain Brazilian? I don’t have much experience with Brazilian, but I did look through some sets of slab cut Brazilian or maybe they were tree stumps, but they were already super warped.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 17 2018 14:25:14
 
Richard Jernigan

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to JasonM

I didn’t make myself clear. I chose the straight grain Brazilian, Abel said he would have chosen the slab cut, but it wasn’t a big deal, I stuck with the straight grain quartersawn. I hadn’t seen anything like the wood I chose for 20 or 30 years.

Garcia told me, and has publicly complained that there is a lot of illegal wood trade going on in Mexico. He strikes me as the soul of integrity, but I didn’t ask him where the few straight grain Brazilian sets he showed me came from.

Last time I was in San Antonio, Blackshear introduced me to Juan Cadena. Cadena had a big cabinet making shop, but got into the aircraft interiors business. I’m pretty sure the job he did on the Sultan of Brunei’s 747 makes Trump’s 757 look pretty skimpy. He has done a lot of big jobs, and must have made a lot of money, but he doesn’t put on airs.

Cadena has retired from aircraft interiors, downsized his shop, and started making classical and flamenco guitars. When we went to his shop he was sorting a really big stash of old time straight grain quartersawn Brazilian. Juan said he bought it from a California luthier who had retired.

RNJ
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 17 2018 23:16:35
 
Goldwinghai

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

There is a Francisco Sánchez blanca listed on Reverb.com by Solera Flamenca LA for $4300 that has been discounted from $6250 (32 per cent). So the Christmas 40 pc is from 6250 or 4300? Just curious.
https://reverb.com/item/13294356-francisco-sanchez-flamenco-guitar-2018-natural-french-polish-spruce-cypress-blanca
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 18 2018 0:46:04
 
Richard Jernigan

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to Goldwinghai

The Spanish Solera Flamenca site has a new Francisco Sanchez listed for 4355 euros. This includes the IVA tax of 21% or whatever it is now, so the non-EU price would be $4088 plus shipping. (No seasonal discount.)

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 18 2018 0:59:18
 
Leñador

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

What’s 40% off inquire??

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 18 2018 1:05:28
 
crooksj5

 

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

Guys it’s not that complicated, the guitars listed here are 40% off from the listed price on the website. If the guitar is listed at $4850 on the website it is on sale for $2910 plus shipping/tax.

https://www.soleraflamencalosangeles.com/new-flamenco-guitars/

These are the guitars in Solera Flamenca LA which is a sister company of the store in Barcelona but completely separate financially and with their stock.

Everyone is trying to play inspector gadget, it’s not a conspiracy.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 18 2018 4:09:47
 
rombsix

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to Leñador

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What’s 40% off inquire??


Which ones? I inquired... Maybe PM me.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 18 2018 12:35:05
 
JasonM

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to rombsix

Tell them you’d be willing to make a rumba video for them for an extra 10%, Ramz.

Richard, there is this wood supplier near PRS guitars in Annapolis area that I go to. They have these big square posts of various rosewoods and ebonies. But at the bottom of each post there is a rabbet cut into them like you would see on a banister or something. I asked an employee about it and he said it’s how they are able to export it and bypass the regulations- they pass them off as table legs rather than lumber!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 18 2018 15:00:06
 
Ricardo

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to crooksj5

During my trip to NAMM as discussed here:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=310628&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=pepe%2Cfernandez&tmode=&smode=&s=#310628

Several of us (not naming names) agreed that with guitar salon and Dan Zeff already competing in this market, that LA was probably a bad idea for such a store, trilogy guitars already sunk.... I feel kind of bad that they are already unloading at low prices less than a year in. :(

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 18 2018 16:03:03
 
rombsix

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RE: Solera Flamenca LA 40% off sale!! (in reply to JasonM

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Tell them you’d be willing to make a rumba video for them for an extra 10%, Ramz.


Vamos!

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