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oc chuck

 

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Malaguena falseta? 

I have several transcriptions of Malaguena (mostly Ernesto Lecuona).
I am looking for notation or tabs of this section or similar.

Malaguena of Ruben Romero on u tube from 2:38 to 3:18.
Kind of a improvised melodic line that some performers use but not all.

Having trouble picking it up by ear.

Thanks. BTW, Ruben Romero, Romanza, painting of guitar and
desert on cover. utube thumbnail.
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to oc chuck

Post the link to the YouTube video.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 25 2018 1:33:24
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to oc chuck



Section from 2:38 to 3:18.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 25 2018 8:20:11
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to oc chuck

Sure thing, man - that's super doable. Of note, there are two guitarists playing during that passage from 2:38 to 3:18 and I will show you how to play the main guitar section. Just give me a couple of minutes and I'll have a video up for you. Cheers!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 25 2018 15:25:24
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to rombsix

Great lesson. Now can we learn the real malagueña?



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 25 2018 19:43:48
 
rombsix

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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to Ricardo

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Great lesson. Now can we learn the real malagueña?


You'll have to do the teaching on that one. I only do fake-agueña. LOL

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 25 2018 20:11:47
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to Ricardo

Or the more technically advanced version (not surprising projects as more emotional as well)



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 25 2018 20:35:54
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to rombsix

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ORIGINAL: rombsix




Awesome, Ramzi, you went above and beyond.
I'm halfway through and will finish tomorrow,
(memorizing, that is).

Thank you.

And thanks for the other Malaguena vids.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 26 2018 6:05:49
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to oc chuck

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And thanks for the other Malaguena vids.

Other?? You know the only relation between the two videos is the name yeah?

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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to Leñador

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ORIGINAL: Leñador

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And thanks for the other Malaguena vids.

Other?? You know the only relation between the two videos is the name yeah?


Yes, I do know and appreciate the difference.
However at almost 70 years of age I need a little
more help gettin' the chicks.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 26 2018 17:15:19
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to oc chuck

Ah well any guitar playing will help that along. I’ve been dating out of my league since my teenage years.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 26 2018 18:21:00
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to Leñador

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I’ve been dating out of my league since my teenage years.


I think your league is much broader than you expect, Lenny. You're a great guy!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 26 2018 20:22:03
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to oc chuck

You're too kind, and a hell of a guy yourself!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 26 2018 22:16:46
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to oc chuck

Chicks just tell me I need to practice more
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 26 2018 23:51:46
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to JasonM

Chicks just tell me: "meh, that's nice. But do you know how to play Wonderwall?"

Or better yet: "Oh cool. Is that a Rodrigo and Gabriela song?"

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 27 2018 1:12:20
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to Piwin

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Or better yet: "Oh cool. Is that a Rodrigo and Gabriela song?"




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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 27 2018 2:24:45
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to oc chuck

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Chicks just tell me I need to practice more

Haha female guitar players can be so rude.

quote:

Chicks just tell me: "meh, that's nice. But do you know how to play Wonderwall?"

You don’t keep a few girl tricks in your back pocket???


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 27 2018 2:57:49
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to oc chuck

FYI,



Starting at 1:12
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to oc chuck



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 16 2020 14:24:49
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to Ricardo

I first ran across this video several years ago. It is my favorite Malagueña. His picado runs sound like machine gun. Amazing!
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to oc chuck

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ORIGINAL: oc chuck

FYI,



Starting at 1:12


At 1:27 Wow just wow. I never expected this. Artificial harmonics in flamenco?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 18 2020 14:05:49
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to devilhand

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Artificial harmonics in flamenco?


Here's another use of them by Sabicas (2:43):



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 18 2020 14:39:59
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to Piwin

Artificial harmonics done to perfection. Mr Emmannuel learned it from Chet Atkins. I'm pretty sure Sabicas is influenced by Mr Atkins too.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 18 2020 16:23:40
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to devilhand

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I'm pretty sure Sabicas is influenced by Mr Atkins too.


I wonder. My hunch is that he was more likely influenced by the classical repertoire, where it's a fairly common technique. Perhaps some of our friends here who are more knowledgeable about Sabicas's life could enlighten us.

BTW, I was just googling around and found out that, apparently, what Tommy Emmanuel is doing here is called "harp harmonics". I always thought it was "arp harmonics". You know, as in "arpeggio" lol

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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to Piwin

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BTW, I was just googling around and found out that, apparently, what Tommy Emmanuel is doing here is called "harp harmonics"


I didn't know this name (but it makes sense, if odd)

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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to kitarist

My impression was that when people say harp harmonics it's not so much about where the harmonics are played, but rather it's about that PA pattern where P plays harmonics and A regular notes. That's why I thought it was "arp" because you're going up and down the chord with that PA pattern. Dunno.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 18 2020 19:40:32
 
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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to Piwin

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but rather it's about that PA pattern where P plays harmonics and A regular notes


Oh, OK. Then I just wanted to point out that [I don't know what I am talking about this morning]...

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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to kitarist

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not artificial as devilhand said


Really? I thought natural harmonic just meant open string and artificial meant fretted. Is that not it?

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RE: Malaguena falseta? (in reply to Piwin

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ORIGINAL: Piwin

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not artificial as devilhand said


Really? I thought natural harmonic just meant open string and artificial meant fretted. Is that not it?


Scheisse. You are right. I don't know what's wrong with me this morning. I'll go lie down...

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