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Ruphus

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Personal glue in music 

For several reasons, I am of the impression as if a certain kind of proficiency wasn´t too widely appreciated, other than with connoisseurs. A kind of glue that adds to rather obvious attributes which make us enjoy a performance, like virtuosity, fluency or consistency in tempi.

A skill or maybe rather footprint that I would call personality. Naturally, also found among flamenco heroes like say Paco Pena (who with that manages to color an almost too meticulous grid and very controlled articulation) or Rafael Cortes.

Yet, to too many ears musically expressed personality seems to not stand out among the crowd of technically highly capable performers -as well as among the virtuous lesser skilled. (Unique example: The lately passed away inventor of laid back and King of articulation, in the same time with visible imperfection in terms of posture and economical technique: J.J. Cale. -I guess the least of his admirers know that he built his rhythm tracks often times on a drum machine. Notwithstandingly, the glue of his grooving guitar, throughout tough like maple syrup, would keep things lively as can be.)

Anyway, for those who sense and appreciate vivid personality of instrumentalists, I´d like to draw their attention to a young cellist named Sol Gabetta. She is envisioning such a detail of interpretation and expression. Working out each and every single note to her inner voice and precise anticipation before finding to have rehearsed a piece. Amazing virtuosity presenting only the least of her skills.

A remarkable new kid* on the block of strings it seems.
(*In my subjective view. Actually, she is said to be famous since childhood.)




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Dudnote

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RE: Personal glue in music (in reply to Ruphus

(For a moment I thought this was going to be another nail thread.)

Thanks Ruphus for the nudge, I've been meaning to get more familiar with her work for a while.

It drives me nuts when my kids complain at being asked to practice their instruments - I guess they're just not hungry enough

The Latin American connection, and the root sources of personality, reminded me of the documentary film El Systema, about musical education in Venezuela. I think you'd enjoy it.
http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1350508/plotsummary?ref_=m_tt_ov_p

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Ruphus

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RE: Personal glue in music (in reply to Ruphus

Thank you, man. I would love to watch that, but don´t figure ... Is ist a DVD or can it be streamed from somewhere?

BTW, how this film should contrast current media presentation of that country. All mainstream media spreading about dictatorial leftisism in Venezuela whilst alleged poor opposition (of merchants and big landowners who unmentioned produce shortage to sabotage, sacking in big deal simultaneously through the resulting inflation and misery), while in the same time no editorial office deems it necessary to surpass duplication of news agencie´s notes and eventually send over a crew to research beyond US foreign policy presentation.

Hardly would any western TV-channel air a documentary like this now. Simply just for it showing something positive from an outlawed country.
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RE: Personal glue in music (in reply to Ruphus

I don't know where this can be found. I saw the film thanks to a friend in Guadeloupe who worked in cinema and had a small mobile cinema venture. I suspect in France a DVD could be found relatively easily. The film is very much focused on the lives of the main characters and so the international politics do not figure in the narrative, by contrast, the difficulty and danger of growing up in Venezuela - and the escape provided by musical education - is very present in the film.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 5 2017 8:32:17
 
Dudnote

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RE: Personal glue in music (in reply to Ruphus

https://www.amazon.fr/El-Sistema-Compilation/dp/B002N5KDYI

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Ruphus

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RE: Personal glue in music (in reply to Dudnote

PS:
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ORIGINAL: Dudnote

(For a moment I thought this was going to be another nail thread.)
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dudnote

It drives me nuts when my kids complain at being asked to practice their instruments - I guess they're just not hungry enough



Personally I assume two main factors of motivation.
# The pure delight from sound, coming either from the touch with the instrument or its quality, or both.
# Inspiration through ideal. Optimally a person live who either motivates through his playing or through great didactics, or both.

The later presumably being what lets Jose Antonio Abreu succeed, and likewise to Prof. Chen (that teacher of classical guitar who produces progenies in a row).

IOW, I guess watching docus on great instructors, like certainly shown with El Sistema, could contribute to your better motivation of the kids.

... Jeez, what would I give, if able to go back in time and arrange for a teacher as a kid. Or at least correcting my mistake of refusing the persistent asking of a lady to take me to a chorus at age of 7.
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RE: Personal glue in music (in reply to Ruphus

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# The pure delight from sound, coming either from the touch with the instrument or its quality, or both.
# Inspiration through ideal. Optimally a person live who either motivates through his playing or through great didactics, or both.


That's pretty f-ing insightful Ruphus!
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Ruphus

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RE: Personal glue in music (in reply to Ruphus

And you, Ches, -if I may remark this in the threatened foro- belong to those whose thought-through perspective I´d be pretty f-ing missing if Simon´s baby was to be going down on us.

Stay as you are, muchachos!
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