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estebanana

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to Morante)

Never forget Ron's classic post:

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=197018&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=ron%2Cdog&tmode=&smode=&s=#197062

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Doitsujin

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

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The premise of an internet search to determine flamenco popularity is absurd. People who advertise flamenco shows advertise in ways that expose the information to true music patrons to like special kinds of music, people who are not flamenco specialists, but folks who are music seekers that know which venues present unusual or specialty music. The flamenco people have a net work and mailing lists to get information,

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Here this will shed light on some open questions

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estebanana

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

Yeah?

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Doitsujin

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

You relate to this guy? Thats an interesting pick :)

Art is weird... why is it there? I mean sculptures and pictures that lack any kind of beauty... its amazing. My friend used to say, the art aspect of art is, to be able to sell this ****... flamenco can be beauty and very enjoyable art (if they dont sing).

Ok jokes aside. Maybe one serious question.

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estebanana

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

Reina Sophia Museum, live with the Antoni Tapies paintings for several days until you get it. Beauty in visual art has a correlation in the roughness of flamenco compared to opera. Sometimes what looks unkempt and ugly in visual art is profoundly transformative once you begin to see. And the same is true of the bel canto afficionada who finally hears the beauty of 'el voz metal' or the eco of flamenco singing and understands the truth of non duality. There is no ugly and there is no beauty, there only 'is'. Most people live in a world of binary opposition between ugly art and pretty art..but that is only a surface reading.

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Doitsujin

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

A nutless monkey could do art

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Doitsujin

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Doitsujin

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Doitsujin

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Doitsujin

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Leñador

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

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A nutless monkey could do art

Likely better than a monkey with nuts, being less consumed sexual thought would free his brain up to explore artistic thoughts.

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estebanana

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

Nice try Doitnerdsugin-san

Those stills are from the out takes of the movie 'Tropic Thunder' by Ben Stiller.

The actor is Tom Cruise, heavily made up with silicone muscle and body fat prosthetic make up. He's practicing the craft of acting, much like a kabuki dancer gets made up and inhabits a character. It's called art.

When you get to the position in your argument where you have to call artists nutless monkeys, you're pretty much undone.

I checkmated you, give up while you're behind. See kid, you never learned the most important lesson, never go full retard-

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Doitsujin

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

checkmate? Thats what she said :P

Lessons from this guy?: https://youtu.be/SDwj1Gn1fZc?t=22

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Doitsujin

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 21 2017 8:17:42

estebanana

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

You're like the guy in MP and the holy Grail who had his arms and legs sliced off who yells, come back here I'll bite your head off.

Sorry dude I de limbed you, if you are a real alien reptile your tail will grow back soon .

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 21 2017 8:58:42

Piwin

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

Oh my, what happened here?

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Doitsujin

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

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jalalkun

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

can somebody explain to me all the fuss about black dildos in this foro. :-|

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 23 2017 7:21:02

Piwin

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to jalalkun)

Boredom.
At least that's the only explanation I could find.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 23 2017 9:32:34

estebanana

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to jalalkun)

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can somebody explain to me all the fuss about black dildos in this foro. :-|

Doitsugin is over educated and he has comedy "issues". Someday he will reach maturity and participate is the philosophy, politics and general old man recollections of our lives that take place in the Off Topic section. In the mean time we tolerate the 17 year old Doitsugin humor.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 23 2017 11:07:25

Ricardo

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to jalalkun)

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ORIGINAL: jalalkun

can somebody explain to me all the fuss about black dildos in this foro. :-|

We are trying to make flamenco more popular on the World Wide Web, nothing more.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 23 2017 17:29:56

jalalkun

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

ok now we have
1. boredom
2. german adolescent humor (which is kinda true)
3. google clicks

all three seem kinda convincing, but ricardo's suggestion suits this thread the best I think

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Doitsujin

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to estebanana)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 24 2017 17:36:18

Piwin

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RE: Forecast: Flamenco is dying out.... (in reply to jalalkun)

OK, people don't usually talk about this outside of a small circle of experts, but here's what it's really about:

In the early 70s, Paco de Lucia gave an extended interview in Pozuelo de Alarcon to journalist Paco Javier Solana. Very little of this interview was put into print. Solana died a few months after the interview and his recording of it was made available to the public by the newspaper he worked for.
The problem is that the quality of the recording is really bad. At one moment, it sounds like Paco is saying "siempre toco con un consolador negro bien metido", i.e. he always played "wearing" a black dildo. I've heard the recording and honestly I can't make out what he's saying. Nonetheless, many wannabe PdLs thought they understood that passage. They also thought that it confirm that other interview of Paco where he said that sometimes to play fast you just have to squeeze your buttcheeks and go for it. So for the next few decades there was a trend among professional flamenco players to strategically place a black dildo down there before going on stage in order to emulate the maestro. Fortunately that trend has died out and those who experienced first hand are embarassed to talk about it.

so

2. Answer 2 is the right one