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St33

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Thumb speed

Guys, what are your favorite thumb exercises? I like amir j. haddad exercise, and nunez https://youtu.be/d-R4OZ44MCI

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Ricardo

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to St33)

Some of my favorite thumb stuff:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 15 2017 17:57:13

Cervantes

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to Ricardo)

Ole!!!

Now we need a tab of that

How long is your thumb nail? Mine seems to be too long right now making it harder to play.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 15 2017 21:22:44

Dudnote

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to Cervantes)

Thanks Ricardo, nice licks!!!

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ORIGINAL: Cervantes
How long is your thumb nail? Mine seems to be too long right now making it harder to play.

Was watching a Juan Martin zapateado vid recently. His thumb nail seems to be about 1 inch long.

About 6mm works well for me.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 15 2017 22:29:02

Piwin

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to Dudnote)

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About 6mm works well for me.

Yeah but....does it work for her?!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 15 2017 23:05:32

Cervantes

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to Dudnote)

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ORIGINAL: Dudnote

Thanks Ricardo, nice licks!!!

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cervantes
How long is your thumb nail? Mine seems to be too long right now making it harder to play.

Was watching a Juan Martin zapateado vid recently. His thumb nail seems to be about 1 inch long.

About 6mm works well for me.

Just measured mine and its only 4mm, but still feels long to me. Maybe its the shape its pretty rounded. Watching Ricardo's video his looks pretty short.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 15 2017 23:51:45

Dudnote

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to Cervantes)

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ORIGINAL: Cervantes
Now we need a tab of that

This is what I got for the 2nd part. I can't check it through right now, but I think it's more or less there. The alzapua was easier to work out, I can tab it in a day or two if anyone needs.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 16 2017 1:32:53

Dudnote

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to Cervantes)

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ORIGINAL: Cervantes
Now we need a tab of that

Here's what I got for the alzapua part...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 17 2017 0:02:23

Ricardo

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to Dudnote)

Good job!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 17 2017 17:29:35

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to St33)

Here is one that my teacher showed me a long time ago, pretty effective:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 18 2017 0:34:38

rombsix

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 18 2017 13:45:29

Cervantes

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to rombsix)

Is that second one Giuliani, Barrios or what? I really need to get going on Alzapua. It's the one technique I have been ignoring, so bring it on. I have been doing a lot of Arp and its really helped. Ramzi, looks like your guitar collection is growing!t

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 18 2017 16:34:09

St33

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to St33)

I did not mean alzapua, i mean scales passages

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 18 2017 18:54:51

St33

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to St33)

Example
https://youtu.be/0085l3LLXME

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 18 2017 19:01:14

kitarist

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to Cervantes)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cervantes

Is that second one Giuliani, Barrios or what?

Villa-Lobos, Etude No.1

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 18 2017 19:58:16

Dudnote

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to St33)

It sounds like you just need a bunch of pulgar heavy falsettas and fills where you're not going to be tempted to 'cheat' with ligado, and then just slowly turn up the meteronome on them. Actually, 'pulgar heavy' might not even be a good description, because it implies endurance more than speed, for speed training you want short bursts.

I've spend a fair bit of time learning the falsettas for Alegria en Do from this youtube channel, if I turn my meteronome up much over 130 some of the pulgar definetly gets challenging.
https://youtu.be/QICwK8OBhQI
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWMowTqivc7Lwrk3BZNOURMGHwWis4P-C

Here's a Tomatito fill for bulerias. Starts on 6 ends on 10, straight 8th notes. FAF#AGAG#BbA (pull off for the last note & mute).

@Ricardo - thanks man. I like these a lot, it won't be long before the local dance school gets to hear them too

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 19 2017 1:54:14

ToddK

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to St33)

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Example

Thumb nail looks a bit long. That can slow you down.

You're not really getting that bright flamenco click with the thumb.

Make sure you're getting the right sound before you worry about speed.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 19 2017 2:54:42

Dudnote

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to St33)

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ORIGINAL: St33
Example
https://youtu.be/0085l3LLXME

Just saw this. You're way faster than me, so I'm outta here

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 19 2017 3:03:37

rombsix

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RE: Thumb speed (in reply to Dudnote)

Yup, it's Villa-Lobos.

Those two guitars in the above videos live in Beirut, actually, so I don't have access to them. I have guitars scattered all over now: Beirut, Nashville, New Haven.