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Vince

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french polish colors

Is there a rule for FP wen using different colors (Blonde, Garnet)?
I usually apply a body coat of blonde or super blonde and finishing with orange or garnet if i need a darker color.
I read that some people do it vice versa?

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Tom Blackshear

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Jose Marques

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RE: french polish colors (in reply to Vince)

quote:

Is there a rule for FP wen using different colors (Blonde, Garnet)?
I usually apply a body coat of blonde or super blonde and finishing with orange or garnet if i need a darker color.
I read that some people do it vice versa?

yes you can do that or just start with the orange, but must be careful if you will have to sand a bit because that can be a mark.

my way is apply a color one with a brush and then continue with the moñeca, I do other different thing, I finish with bond one, I found out that can be easier to do the final steps

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Tom Blackshear

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RE: french polish colors (in reply to Vince)

I spray a very thin clear coat, then color it with very thin spray coats to build the desired color, then spray a few clear coats to seal the color, then french polish over the entire pray coats to a final finish, then compound out the final finish to a shine.

These coats are sprayed fairly dry, not too wet.

Take into consideration that I use just enough shellac to bind the coat to adhere to the wood and other coats. The major part of the mix is 190 proof Ever-Clear alcohol.

This mix makes the shellac very thin, about as thin as one coat of Lacquer for the final finish.

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constructordeguitarras

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RE: french polish colors (in reply to Vince)

I used to seal with blonde and use more highly colored shellac on top of that. I have found that when there are layered colors, repairing damaged areas can be very difficult, so I now use only one color on a surface.

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Jose Marques

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RE: french polish colors (in reply to constructordeguitarras)

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I used to seal with blonde and use more highly colored shellac on top of that. I have found that when there are layered colors, repairing damaged areas can be very difficult, so I now use only one color on a surface.

i have done like that as well, I just found that wen you have the color and you are moving the shellac in final steps you can finish with a darker spots , most of the time just you will note that but it can happen.

anyway my opinion is , if works for you then great theres a lot of different way to do it :)

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Tom Blackshear

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RE: french polish colors (in reply to constructordeguitarras)

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I have found that when there are layered colors, repairing damaged areas can be very difficult, so I now use only one color on a surface.

Ethan,

To correct my post a little; is that I use an Ethan Allen style of shading spray that darkens with each continual coat of color; meaning that I do a continuous pray technique that blends into one final color.

I don't wait for each coat to dry and then add different pray coats. In other words all of the continual spray coats melt into each other to form one darker shade of color.

Normally I will store the additional color or color mix for any repair that may be needed. This way I have an air brush that works well by using a clear plastic cut out of the size repair the guitar needs, and then use the same color shading to bring the color into a near perfect match with the original color scheme.

Sorry for my previous explanation.

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Jose Marques

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RE: french polish colors (in reply to Tom Blackshear)

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I spray a very thin clear coat,

thats another thing I never done, spray shellac :) I saw that even exists some spray cans
o dear I'm to old I need a reboot :P

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