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Piwin

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RE: Keeping the pulse (in reply to Deniz

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..but does it come in nitro finish?!




Re: konnakol, Mclaughlin has a teaching video on how he uses it for guitar. Dunno how it sounds for someone who actually practices Indian classical music though.

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RE: Keeping the pulse (in reply to Piwin

This one is funny too :

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RE: Keeping the pulse (in reply to Piwin

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ORIGINAL: Piwin

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..but does it come in nitro finish?!




Re: konnakol, Mclaughlin has a teaching video on how he uses it for guitar. Dunno how it sounds for someone who actually practices Indian classical music though.


He meant it as a compliment to his instructional guitar video, which only has chapter 10-12 focused on odd meter examples. He steps aside and let’s Selva Ganesh teach all the konnakol on that video. And selva used the metronome.

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RE: Keeping the pulse (in reply to Ricardo

Right. I watched it years ago so maybe my memory's blurry. I remember the other guy teaching the rudiments. Not doubting his qualifications. Just wondering if, since IIRC it's designed as basics to then apply to the guitar, whether it's like videos teaching people to clap 3-6-8-10-12 kind-of-thing. Given how large a world Indian classical music is, I figured there might be experts out there disputing how Mclaughlin used certain basics of konnakol in his own music.

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RE: Keeping the pulse (in reply to Piwin

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ORIGINAL: Piwin

Right. I watched it years ago so maybe my memory's blurry. I remember the other guy teaching the rudiments. Not doubting his qualifications. Just wondering if, since IIRC it's designed as basics to then apply to the guitar, whether it's like videos teaching people to clap 3-6-8-10-12 kind-of-thing. Given how large a world Indian classical music is, I figured there might be experts out there disputing how Mclaughlin used certain basics of konnakol in his own music.


Using the system or not for non Indian music will not be perceptible. He is simply admitting he used the system for ALL his music, not just shakti. Once you learned the rudiments it should be obvious how to apply it to any style.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 28 2020 17:56:14
 
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RE: Keeping the pulse (in reply to Ricardo

I honestly don't remember how far they get in that video. If it's just the very basics just to show how you can use strings of syllables to match groupings of X notes, then sure, works for anything. But if you keep going at some point it starts to get caught up in larger concepts of Indian music.

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RE: Keeping the pulse (in reply to Piwin

Ended up just trying to do some of those 16th-note patterns to a metronome set at more or less their speed. Got lost pretty quickly. I have trouble "resetting" between fast picado bursts if the pause between the two is that short.

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RE: Keeping the pulse (in reply to Piwin

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Have you tried following the score doing one-note picado?


Ha. It would have been nice if the score also had the underlying 12.4.6. hand pattern explicitly written as she gets off it with the syllables almost immediately; then it would be easier to follow and appreciate the syncopations, so to speak. At least he's divided the "staff" with bars every 7/4, and they seem accurate as far as I got following.

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