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Dudnote

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What knot is this? 

This has to be the fanciest way I've seen yet to tie a treble string to a machine head - someone else's fancy work, not mine, although it is my guitar. It doesn't slip which does make it quite tricky to untie - but also suggests it should be as stable as a rock when playing (which it has been). I'm keen to learn how to tie it, but am struggling in poor light here. Time to get the toothpicks out and see what's going on with this thing.

Anyone recognise the knot?



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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Dudnote

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 3 2015 1:36:18
 
Dudnote

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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Dudnote

Cracked it! Here's a loose version. Pretty simple...

1) Pass string through machinehead hole
2) twist the two bits of string together
3) pass the end between the machinehead's roller and the loop made by the twisted pieces of string
4) pass the end through the newly made loop
5) pull it tight, tune up and play some flamenco

Or...

The rabbit comes out the hole, get's her knickers in a twist, dives under a forked branch, leaps into a time machine and emerges inside the head of Carmen Amaya as she dances garrotin.

Unless someone else already put a name to this, I call it the Garrotin Rabbit method.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 3 2015 2:05:24
 
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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Dudnote

This type of knot is the bane of any repairman who has to take the strings off a guitar and is completely unnecessary.

Turn the machinehead so that the hole in the roller is aligned with the string. With the string attached at the bridge, pass it through the hole in the roller. Keeping some tension on the string. pass it over the roller. Now pass it under itself and back over the roller, on the other side of the string. Maintaining presion, pull the free end of the string tight. Where it doubles around itself will pull tightly into the hole in the roller.

With only half a turn the string is tightly caught. Tied in this way, it will not slip and is super easy to remove.
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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Dudnote

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With only half a turn the string is tightly caught. Tied in this way, it will not slip and is super easy to remove.

Just make sure you listen to Cante before you tie it.

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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to ToddK

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Just make sure you listen to Cante before you tie it.



That doesn't make any sense.

You should go to España and ask a gitano to change your strings.

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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Sr. Martins

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You should go to España and ask a gitano to change your strings.


Los gitanos no cambian cuerdas: es un trabajo de las gitanas
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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Sr. Martins

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You should go to España and ask a gitano to change your strings.


Not really there yet, but what I did experience one day was a beautiful girl coming into a guitar shop and asking the sales guy to please tune her guitar. I think to faintly remember her saying that she would let someone tune her axe every 6 or more months.

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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Dudnote

Hostia! Yo no sé nada de eso.

Voy a tocar Asesino con señor Lenny, es mejor.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 4 2015 12:09:14
 
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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to ToddK

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Just make sure you listen to Cante before you tie it.




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MikeC

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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Dudnote

That is a fishing hook knot. I've never seen it used in a guitar, but, why not?



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 4 2015 18:06:17
 
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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Dudnote

I was thinking fish hook knot also!
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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Sr. Martins

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You should go to España and ask a gitano to change your strings.


Good advice, Sr Martins, since it is common knowledge that only a gitano can tie an authentic flamenco knot.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 6 2015 13:59:37
 
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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to BarkellWH

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it is common knowledge that only a gitano can tie an authentic flamenco knot


Nope, we were wrong. Here's how it goes:








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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 6 2015 21:12:04
 
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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Sr. Martins

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ORIGINAL: Sr. Martins
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Just make sure you listen to Cante before you tie it.

That doesn't make any sense.


Makes perfect sense. Without a deep understanding of Cantie Jondo you Can'tTie Nada.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 6 2015 22:25:41
 
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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to MikeC

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ORIGINAL: MikeC
That is a fishing hook knot. I've never seen it used in a guitar, but, why not?

Why knot? Try it once and you'll be hooked for life

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 6 2015 22:53:00
 
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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Sr. Martins

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Nope, we were wrong. Here's how it goes:


Can you spell anorexia? I knew you could!

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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Paul Magnussen

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Nope, we were wrong. Here's how it goes:

Can you spell anorexia?

Canteat Jondo, Canteat Nada

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 6 2015 23:15:58
 
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RE: What knot is this? (in reply to Sr. Martins

Gracias Rui. I get it now. Cantie Jondo - the art of the deep thong.

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