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DavRom

 

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Tempo ranges 

what is the tempo range for these palos (BPM for ♩.):

•solea
•solea por bulerias
•bulerias

thx!
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Leñador

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to DavRom

tempo can vary greatly based on context, Solea in a baile situation can just barely crawl as opposed to a lot of those old cante records where it's like warp speed. I dunno, I'd hate to put a tempo on any but if I had to this'd be what I'd say.
Solea - 50-140
Solea pot buleria - 120-180
Buleria - 175-230+

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2015 14:44:37
 
DavRom

 

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to DavRom

i take it your saying for

rather than ♩.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2015 16:25:46
 
Sr. Martins

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to DavRom

It's all maths, proportion... the absolute speed won't change because of your choice of basic beat lenght.

Go with Lenny.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2015 18:25:23
 
El Kiko

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to DavRom

come on man ... get listening ...
dont ask that stuff , get listening and counting and working it out , and then maybe post to tell us what you found ,, It'll do you good
theres a ton of flamenco on line ,on radio on youtube on CD on everything .. get a metronome and start measuring ..

you know it makes sense ...

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2015 18:44:34
 
DavRom

 

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to El Kiko

^^^^

that's funny. so you want me to "get listening" and then post to tell you

we didn't cover that kind of logic in college so no, it doesn't make sense
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2015 19:42:00
 
DavRom

 

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to Sr. Martins

quote:

It's all maths, proportion...


yeah, i'll do the math since i don't want to count notes at a zillion BPM
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2015 19:45:19
 
El Kiko

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to DavRom

i mean .. i already know .. most here already know ...
if you want info .. you post your findings and get , perhaps ,, extra info on ...oh lets say if the tempos have got faster or slower since earlier recordings etc , or any other bits of what could be useful or interesting info

no logic ??? it doesnt make sense ,,


it is better for you to get everything clear in your head by doing it yorself , rather than someone ...or even some programme .. just telling you ...

you dont see it ,, i can tell , but its the best kind of help you can get ...

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2015 20:40:43
 
DavRom

 

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to DavRom

yeah, i can see it now...

i'm blind

pfft

if u don't wanna help why bother posting? nothing better to do? go practice
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2015 20:46:37
 
El Kiko

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to DavRom

you got it all wrong , i am trying to help you
you just dont see it ...
if you do the work you will learn and remember and put stuff together in yuor own way .
if someone just tells you ...you wont ...

you think Im being stupid , or not helping ...ok ....thats up to you

but dont insult me ...

have a look here ... thers lots of stuiff about forms and tempo
any online flamenco metronome or app comes pre loaded at the most typical tempo for each palo ....

http://www.studioflamenco.com/Flamenco_Forms.html

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2015 22:05:12
 
DavRom

 

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to El Kiko

not stupid, just missing it. if you feel insulted, i apologize

quote:

have a look here ... thers lots of stuiff about forms and tempo
any online flamenco metronome or app comes pre loaded at the most typical tempo for each palo ....

http://www.studioflamenco.com/Flamenco_Forms.html


cool site when i want to learn more about palos. thx! (now that was helpful!)
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rombsix

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to Leñador

quote:

Solea pot buleria - 120-180


What have you been smoking, Lenny?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2015 0:50:24
 
Leñador

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to DavRom

Cali greens as always :)
Alright maybe 180 is a bit fast lol

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2015 3:22:12
 
Brendan

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to DavRom

Speaking as a college lecturer: El Kiko's message to you is precisely THE THING that we most want students to get.

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Ricardo

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to DavRom

quote:

ORIGINAL: DavRom

what is the tempo range for these palos (BPM for ♩.):

•solea
•solea por bulerias
•bulerias

thx!


Dotted quarter might be off the metronome for Solea (on the low end). Lenny gave you 100% acccurate tempos for the QUATER NOTE....you can derive (against better judgement) the dotted quarter by dividing his values by 1.5 (3/2 relation). Have fun in math class.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2015 11:07:17
 
rombsix

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to Leñador

quote:

Cali greens as always :)
Alright maybe 180 is a bit fast lol


I just said that because you stated "Solea poT buleria". You typed T instead of R.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2015 11:43:24
 
Ricardo

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to rombsix

quote:

ORIGINAL: rombsix

quote:

Cali greens as always :)
Alright maybe 180 is a bit fast lol


I just said that because you stated "Solea poT buleria". You typed T instead of R.


Oh man I just caught that...

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2015 12:08:45
 
Leñador

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to DavRom

Hahahhaha Freudian slip.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2015 13:33:33
 
rombsix

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to Leñador

Addiction psychiatrist, at your service.

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mark indigo

 

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RE: Tempo ranges (in reply to Leñador

quote:

Solea pot buleria


is that pot medio or pot arriba?

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