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Ruphus

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Psychopathy in Upper Management 

The preconditions and psyche of insaturable personalities of empathic frigidity have already been scientifically described in the early 20th century, however remained unheard to the public as the works were defamed and destroyed by the establishment.

We live in an era of unseen degree of irrational, radical and boundless pathological greed. It is eliminating even the middle class in industrial countries now, sucking off the worlds public properties and creating a host of meanwhile over 2000 billionaires and a whole population of multi millionaires in an ever accelerating upwards loop that has no halt.

With the owning of states and laws by the global plutocratic ligue intervention into this development is basically underminded and exclusively taking place when privileged instances and brothers in crime are being surrendered for competitive reasons.

The doings of the new quality of upper class are more reckless and unrestrained than ever before and entirely obviously pathologic. Not taking into consideration future and survival of anyone, including even the own new radicals´offspring.

Now, when I used to name the psychological state of the insaturable I had to count with common sense interpreting me as biased, but apparently this is on its way to change.

About a year ago a popular German writer published a book about current upper managements socio pathology. Then me found mentioning of scientific works on the matter in economy related articles, and today stumbled over a one year old article - as you would expect- very tamed and conservative, relating to a works from 2006 that estimates the percentage of psychopaths in leading management at a ridiculous low number, BUT after all in a magazine you would had never expected to name the circumstance at all. Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/victorlipman/2013/04/25/the-disturbing-link-between-psychopathy-and-leadership/

It is ridiculous that the global peg man policy and its irrational psychological background gets viewed yet after even developed countries people´s conditions are nearing those of empoverished spheres and the planet being near devastation, but at last now the sick condition is about to become part of common knowledge.

Hopefully, illumination of the trivially insaturable spirit over a course of image and prestige might lead to faster repercussion than general enlightment of the people on economical and social basics could, which would be taking far too long to preemt a global collapse.

Ruphus
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Ricardo

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to Ruphus

And if you were one of the 2000 billionares, how would you be any different Ruphus? Specifics please.

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Ruphus

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to Ruphus

Actually I missed out on that by only a hair. Had in mind of asking my old lady to buy me MS shares for 30 grands in the late seventies. However, in the end did not dare to. Otherwise me would be among the very richest folks by now.

Of the things I would had loved to do since then would had been:

# Make possible fair and employee-owned companies like the Isthmus corporation in Madison, USA. (With a constantly growing project.)
# Propagate direct democracy internationally and the pre-conditions it needs.
# Initiate investigative und unbending press in the way of how DER SPIEGEL used to be until ~ 25 years or so ago, and better.
# Counter the bribe that makes governments tolerate the most tragic evironmental desasters.
# And definitly invest the lousy some hundred millions it would take to prevent the extinctintion of the most urgently endangered, higher developed species. (Something most irking me in regard of current billioner´s omission.)

You bet that the world would be essentially different from status quo, however just as much, that it would had been extremely unlikely for anyone to survive such an engagement for more than the very first years of it.
But an attempt would always be worth it.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 19 2015 19:45:02
 
tele

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to Ruphus

What is politics without psychopaths(I mean if we can speak about the matter in this topic about leadership)? The politicians in the US are so bad that it defies explanation.

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to tele

quote:

ORIGINAL: tele

What is politics without psychopaths(I mean if we can speak about the matter in this topic about leadership)? The politicians in the US are so bad that it defies explanation.


Instead of repressing them via secret police, so that they band together and bomb public buildings (well, mostly) we elect them to Congress. There, instead of murdering people outright, they function as cockroaches.

I first saw the insect nomenclature applied to a politician in the magazine "Texas Monthly" more than 20 years ago. In the semiannual issue about the state legislature, a representative said one of his colleagues was "a cockroach."

When asked to explain he said, "Well, you know what it is about cockroaches. It ain't what they eat or tote off, it's what they fall into and f**k up."

RNJ
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 20 2015 17:23:02
 
Ruphus

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to Ruphus

There just was another mentioning of the lobbyist whereabout in Germany. Germany has the most casual legal situation for lobbyism in Europe. (Even the laws / official guidelines in the EU´s southern states are more restrictive.)
Lobbyists don´t need to hide their doings, and they literally live in the Reichstag. Having their flats close to the building and frequenting it like home, with permanent entrance cards given out to them by the parliamentarians themselves.

The routine is so shameless that lobbyists even tell freely before the camera how they visit whom ever they want and order industrial wishes. (Like seen on TV some two months or so ago.)

If there could be a disclosure about established politicians´ bank accounts in Liechtenstein, Caymans et al, people wouldn´t believe who is all taking in bribe and before all in what dimensions.

Official parlamentarian pay means peanuts to the upper political department. It is less than pocket money while people´s rights and well-being are being sold out.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 21 2015 9:20:52
 
keith

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to Ruphus

Two quotes come to mind. The first is attributed to the Reverend Ike: "The root of evil is the absence of money" and the second concerns management styles: Seagull Management: "Fly in, Sh#t on people and then fly away".

Hey Ruphus, I assume MS is Microsoft and if so they went public in March 1986 so having "your old lady" (shades of the 1970's) buy MS stock in the 1970's would have been a mean feat. Sure wish though I could play Peabody and Mr. Sherman and go back to that fateful day in March 1986.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 21 2015 13:05:41
 
Ruphus

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to Ruphus

Hi Keith,

Thank you for the heads up. As emberassing as it is to realize about the actual release, good to learn about it.
I don´t know what made me think I could buy shares then. All I know is that I read about then widely unknown MS in the press and that I found it highly attractive to purchase what actually wasn´t there yet.
I suppose that I wanted my mother to ask at her bank whether shares could be had and then buy in for 30 grands. And when remembering the stituation many years later probably mixed up my assumption with reality, which has been no shares available at that time.

Thanks again!

Ruphus

PS:
I really like the seagull analogy. It hits the nail on its head so well with modern upper management nomads. I will remember this one.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 21 2015 18:34:51
 
keith

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to Ruphus

Ruphus, not a problem. For fun check out the Reverend Ike--basically a guy who professed to be a preacher who dressed like a pimp and drove a Caddie through Harlem. Truly one of a kind.
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Ruphus

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to Ruphus

I´ll try to remember the name!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 21 2015 19:27:21
 
Richard Jernigan

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I haven't heard one in a long time, but there used to be a couple of radio stations in Ciudad Acuña, Mexico across the river from Del Rio, Texas--XEG was one of them. They may still be in business. They were many times as powerful as the limit set by international agreements, and beamed radio preachers up the middle of the USA.

For $5 you could get a prayer cloth that had been personally blessed by Jesus, to drape over your radio and improve the power and effectiveness of the message. For only a little more you could order medicines that would cure cancer or other scourges of humankind.

Many of the preachers on XEG inveighed against the creeping malaise of secular humanism that was dooming the USA to the wrath of God.

Turns out the stations would broadcast anyone who had the money to pay for the time, so for many years one of the most popular broadcasters was Brother Human. In the country accent and apocalyptic tones of the fundamentalist preachers, Brother Human would spread the gospel of Secular Humanism, make fun of the fundamentalists, bellow breathtaking bouts of blasphemy, and generally send up the rest of the broadcasters.

Despite the work of Texas's most talented investigative reporters, the identity of Brother Human was never known to the general public.

RNJ

Here's Pastor Ely, followed by Brother Human

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to Richard Jernigan

quote:

I haven't heard one in a long time, but there used to be a couple of radio stations in Ciudad Acuña, Mexico across the river from Del Rio, Texas--XEG was one of them. They may still be in business. They were many times as powerful as the limit set by international agreements, and beamed radio preachers up the middle of the USA.


One of those stations in Ciudad Acuna--XERF--was where Wolfman Jack broadcast his programs that could be heard over much of the United States. We used to listen to the Wolfman in Arizona. Wolfman Jack had quite a following. I used to like his responses to call-ins. He would say things that, at the time, you could not get away with if broadcasting from a Stateside station. I remember one girl called in, and the exchange went as follows.

Girl: "Hi, Wolfman, I love your program."

Wolfman: "Hi, baby, what's your name?"

Girl: "My name's Shirley."

Wolfman: Hey, Shirley, I want your peaches, baby."

Wolfman Jack broadcast from XERF for years, and at night it was so clear you would think it was a local radio station.

Bill

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 22 2015 11:18:15
 
Ruphus

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On Wednesday there was a report on the policy of the furniture trading companies Ikea and Höffner.
These get their woods vastly from northern Russian and Romanian primeval forests while presenting their resource as "certified wood", so that customers may think their furnitures were made of controlled and sustained foresting.

How can they do that?
As usual brass hats let states enact absurd laws to established demand.
In this case the law stating that for presenting wood as certified, only a 20% of it needs to come from actually controlled foresting. And the rest, you guessed it already, may come from unchecked source.
In this case from primeval forest eradication with clearing machines that each cut down 800 of extremely slowly grown, centuries old trees daily; entirely erading areas of a size that you would had not imagend in your worst nightmares. ( Ikea´s estimated consumption of soft and hard wood: Yearly 14 million m³)

For destroying the primeveal forest one other time connections are being used by instigating the paradox of surrendering states nature reserves to private companies, who then unhand the areas for clearing. This way plutocrats make free dorado of last refuges and eat up the planets future while stealing public property.

And in order of enhancing the dorado, not yet fond enough of the free ticket profiteering ... For lurking buyers of furnitures into purchasing at extremely low prices at yet maintained glaring margins, staff like the workers in the woods and in the fabrics are being paid salaries they can´t even live from. Namely between € 160 and € 350 monthly for 160 hours of labor. (For really hard work like cutting down trees in arctic winter, or grinding boards manually.)

Now, I would need to read up about the owners of the German company Höffner first, but about the owner of Ikea Ingvar Feodor Kamprad I know already that his wealth ranges way beyond 20 billion USD. In the same time he is known for being exessively penurious and hunting bargains when shopping.

If you hadn´t known before you might realize by now what a pathological case of insatiability is.
This person could have been content already decades and billions of dollars ago.
He could have reached a state of dignity and of wanting to give back something to the world. He could had engaged socially, constructively and maybe even responsively.
He could had turned his devastating undertaking into something constructive. Into recycling, preserving or sustaining and maybe even fairly paying out works. Or he could had simply retracted.
But he just can´t stop milking off through a devote and careless system of corrupt governments and usufructuaries.

In the same time not even able of enjoying the wealth that he hoards.
For exactly such completely irrational futility our planet and its inhabitants are going down the chute, while plutocrat-owned adminstrations are not able, neither willing to halt the world-wide insanity.

Does a totally needless havoc and fixed panopticum not make you wanting to bang your had against the wall?

It god damn sure feels that way to me.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 2 2015 10:31:08
 
rojarosguitar

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to Ruphus

I don't think what you describe is any more psychpathological than it ever was. From what I understand the big events in the world always were driven by extreme greed, extreme hatred and extreme stupidity. In Buddhism they call it the 'three mental poisons'. Nothing one could forbid or block. People can only come to terms individually with their own tendencies.

What obviously has changed are the technical means and methods to satisfy one's own greed at the disadvantage of whole social groups and whole societies, through the 'advances' of science and technology.

Back to prehistorical times people always have used what was to their disposal to do the same (think of Troy or what we think we know about it...)

Just some thoughts ...

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 4 2015 10:22:12
 
Ruphus

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RE: Psychopathy in Upper Management (in reply to Ruphus

Definitly the effects of pathological greed due to economical options, tailored legislations and technology are growing greater every day.
But that is not all to it.

I have mentioned several times in the past, that there is a behavioural difference since about 5000 years now.
Reigns and clerics have established the idea that selfishness and greed were to be just natural. However, anthropoligically with such premise hominids could not have the way they had / would had gone extinct millions of years ago already.
Tribes that proved the opposite ought to have been minority in natural environment.

The difference with the upcoming of settlement and dynasties has been upbringing of men under unnatural conditions. These leave essential care and satisfaction of drives at neglect state, which again results into inferiourity complex and compensational behaviour.
Compensational behaviour again leads to insatiability, egotism and pathological greed.

In fact an unnatural phenomenon yielding from the cycle of exploitation.

The other way round: Exploitation -> lacking parentship -> unsatisfied offspring / insatiability / compensation -> exploitation ....

The exessive accumulation has absolutely to do with the escalating phenomenon of insatiability.

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