Cordoba F10

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rsclosson

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Joined: Feb. 18 2014

Cordoba F10

I just had the opportunity to play a Cordoba F10. I had searched this site and did not find a lot of love for this guitar. Now that I have played one, I am kind of surprised. The one I played was a factory second, though I could not find the perceived flaw that made it a second. It played and sounded fantastic. Lots of volume, projection and flamenco growl but can also purr when I let it. Big fat basses and great balance with the trebles. Easy playing and super fast response. I am intrigued by the not very positive reaction to it. This guitar can be mine for just over $600 with case. Can anybody here enlighten me?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 3 2014 17:37:37

keith

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From: Back in Boston

RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to rsclosson)

the f10 sells for $1k at several web sites so the price you mentioned seems to be a good one for that line. i think your description hit on one thing--big fat basses. in my experience cordoba guitars tend to have thick muddy basses--not really my cup to tea. the f10 is in the same price bracket as navarro flamencos which have received very favorable reviews. yamaha flamencos have received very favorable reviews and they sell for considerably less.

as to people loving it or not loving it--in the grand scheme of things it really does not matter who loves or hates it in so far as you like the sound and feel.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 3 2014 18:01:01

rsclosson

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RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to keith)

Point well taken. Thankfully the basses aren't what I call muddy. They are big, however. Never had a chance to play a Navarro, but I am thinking that for $600, I might be ok. I played it side by side with my Yamaha and the Cordoba won. I have wondered if the Yamaha would improve with a bone saddle and nut. Hopefully someday I will be able to try out a Navarro.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 3 2014 18:14:36

Pgh_flamenco

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From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to rsclosson)

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I have wondered if the Yamaha would improve with a bone saddle and nut.

Or Tusq. I think people on this site have upgraded their CG171FC's with Tusq and have been happy with the results.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 3 2014 18:32:20

Erik van Goch

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From: Netherlands

RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to rsclosson)

Sound and playability can strongly differ between 2 identical instruments or even on 1 and the same instrument. My father owns a 600,- flamenco guitar that sounded and played pretty well until he lend it to my brother. When it was returned it sounded dull and was a hell to play, i could not believe it was the same guitar. After a good polish, lowering the action and a new set of strings it once again was a pleasure to play it.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 3 2014 18:55:32

PeterLC

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From: Rotterdam, Netherlands

RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to rsclosson)

If you really like it, that's between you and the guitar. If you're sure about it, by all means get it.

I for one would'nt buy a Chinese guitar, especially when it's a flamenco-model. Why would I? There's enough choice out there. Irrational, maybe - but my Saez was outright cheap for an all-solid cypress/spruce blanca, and made in Spain to boot.

I guess Cordoba are doing a helluva job promoting their guitars in the USA, the brand is all over the place on fora, but I've never seen one here.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 3 2014 19:48:50

rsclosson

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RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to PeterLC)

Well, it works for me. I have gotten past my country of origin bias a very long time ago. I have played guitars, saxes clarinets etc that were made in Japan, Korea, China and Viet Nam and all I've gotta say is, I hope the more traditionally recognized instrument building countries take note. Lots of really quality stuff is starting to come from these countries.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 3 2014 20:08:29

Sr. Martins

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RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to rsclosson)

You could try bulgarian instruments too. Orpheus Valley (kremona) are around your price and they are very nice.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 3 2014 21:11:09

Ramon Amira

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RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to rsclosson)

If by "Yamaha" you are referring to the Yamaha 172SF, then comparing that to the Cordoba F10 is apples and oranges. The F10 is vastly superior to the Yamaha, and for $600, especially since you like the sound, you won't go wrong.

Ramon

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 10 2014 18:42:03

jacksonweb

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RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to rsclosson)

I have the Cordoba F7, which was also a "B" model due to very minor cosmetic flaws, and I absolutely loved it when I got it. The F10 is the solid wood version of the F7. Couldn't get my hands off it. Very crisp sound, just a pleasure to play.
A year later I may end up selling it. The neck is more narrow than traditional flamenco guitars (50mm, I believe) and the neck is also thin. Nice if you are transitioning to nylon string guitars.
I now have a Hermanos Sanchis Lopez negra with a 52 mm width and thicker neck. The length is 660mm. Trying to go back and forth between the two really threw me off. So now it's just the HSL.
Again though, I would have jumped at a $600 F10 a year ago, but you will likely outgrow it.

Mark

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 11 2014 18:37:11

keith

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From: Back in Boston

RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to rsclosson)

so did you buy the guitar? if so, how is it working out?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 12 2014 12:58:00

rsclosson

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RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to keith)

Yes, I got it and am really enjoying it. Sounds great and is very easy to play.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 12 2014 13:19:51

rsclosson

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RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to jacksonweb)

Interesting about the 50mm on your F7. I haven't measured it at the nut yet, but the F10 specs show 52mm. It actually feels pretty close to any other classical or flamenco I have ever played. I think it will be quite a while before I outgrow this one.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 12 2014 14:40:52

keith

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RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to rsclosson)

good that you bought the guitar and like it. here is data from the horse's mouth:

http://cordobaguitars.com/p/f10

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 12 2014 14:47:16

jacksonweb

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RE: Cordoba F10 (in reply to rsclosson)

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ORIGINAL: rsclosson

Interesting about the 50mm on your F7. I haven't measured it at the nut yet, but the F10 specs show 52mm. It actually feels pretty close to any other classical or flamenco I have ever played. I think it will be quite a while before I outgrow this one.

Actually, you're right the nut width is 52mm. My previous GK studio was the one with the 50mm width. Enjoy the F10. I like the rosette on that one.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 12 2014 19:09:32