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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to athrane77

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ORIGINAL: jof

No, you're parroting people who have said the same thing more than 100 times.
Nothing more. And this consensus is about to "destroy" the foro more than some Ruben Diaz vids.


I'm glad you know me so well to make a bold comment as such.

Let me help you out a bit:
The good PROFESSOR is a talented and good player.
The good PROFESSOR has put out a ton of content, for free, that has benefitted many students of flamenco guitar.

But that doesn't mitigate the antics and utter lack of respect for other players, teachers, and non-Andalucian builders.

Having differing opinions are good thing. Insights can be gleamed from every where, including the most novice of players. But Kudos' post, in the light of what has gone with this foro and professor, and the content of that post....

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 18 2014 23:46:07
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to BarkellWH

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(For example, the silly suggestion that he "plays better than most [Foro members] combined!" A vacuous statement based on no evidence whatsoever.


I also said that, but I was trying to placate those that toss the bad penny back into the fresh water of the foro well. And I also can be relied upon to take up vacuous causes.

I think, I think it might be time for the moderator, if he pleases, and for others who have had enough, to put this one to bed. I for one have had enough to last a decade and anyone who needs more can visit his Youtube channel, where the good professors work belongs and should stay.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 19 2014 0:22:04
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to flamencositar

Can't we make a 'google' forget request? Having said that, Riconde's post of Ruben's comedy video enlightened me how to drop saddlebones on the floor with aplomb, although he was slightly off compas with this.

Seriously though, I enjoyed reading this thread this morning after also having wasted precious minutes viewing his well meant but below par instructional videos.

<why does it say in reply to flamencositar?..I did not use that control x.x >

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 19 2014 10:03:39
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to estebanana

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I think, I think it might be time for the moderator, if he pleases, and for others who have had enough, to put this one to bed. I for one have had enough to last a decade and anyone who needs more can visit his Youtube channel, where the good professors work belongs and should stay.


I agree. Let RD in peace and lets have some peace from him and his followers.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 19 2014 10:24:54
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to mezzo

I've seen some good teachers do the same. Not as easy to do as you might think. TRy playing a syncopated falseta and count at the same time. if that's no problem, then try chewing gum too.


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ORIGINAL: mezzo

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he has produced some very good students,

from what I could see on his YT channel, there's one thing I cannot get is : why does he count out loud while teaching how to play?
I mean, apparently he uses this method of teaching by counting out loud. I never see anyone else doing such a thing.
So I assume, he encourage his students to count while learning his stuff. Not sounds a good method at all to me ... (but what do I know!)

So according to this thread title, I'd said Ruben Diaz needs to stop...counting! muahjejeje
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 19 2014 16:14:08
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to El Burro Flamencuro

as for the counting thing mezzo: i wish i had teachers who could do that when i first started, it would have made things way easier to understand..and i still need it now when things get crazy complicated. its really hard to do if you really think about it or every try to.. its amazing actually!

put yourself in his shoes.. your family is a close friend of paco de lucias family and you get to hang out and play guitar with paco for many years for fun and all that, thats not something anyone of you would dream of ! imagine how much knowledge you would gain directly from paco ! you cant even imagine!

you remember, when you all prized and treasured just being a few feet away from him for a few seconds after a concert, not to mention how happy you would be for being an ass-kisser of paco

now, ruben has done flamenco for most of his life- say about 40 years of flamenco - thats more than everyone here in the foro and has lived in andalucia for a major part of his life !

so when you a foreigner who only goes to visit andalucia a couple times a year or even live there a few years - then after you go back to your country you start claiming to be "an expert" or "professional", start flexing your flamenco muscles and all that ego BS crap ! many of you do that i am sure !

at the end, ofcourse ruben will say after all that, that you have no idea what you are talking about ! its very understandable !
i know spanish guitarists who live outside of spain and complain that foreigners think that they know flamenco better than them ! ofcourse it will drive them nuts !!

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I think, I think it might be time for the moderator, if he pleases, and for others who have had enough, to put this one to bed. .....

oooh someone does not like what i am saying? lets close this thread or delete my comment, just because i do not follow the forum's RD "flow of hatred" ?? just think about what i am saying for a minute and discuss this without parroting those from before?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 19 2014 23:43:33
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to kudo

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quote:

I think, I think it might be time for the moderator, if he pleases, and for others who have had enough, to put this one to bed. .....

oooh someone does not like what i am saying? lets close this thread or delete my comment, just because i do not follow the forum's RD "flow of hatred" ?? just think about what i am saying for a minute and discuss this without parroting those from before?

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See Kudinski, when it comes to RD, I have a box full of rats' asses and word on the street is I'm not giving any of them away.

Have you ever thought for one moment...I know a moment of thought is a long time for you to sustain, that we're tired of the subject matter and it's a of waste of time?

Go watch him on You tube, he's not welcome here. Get it? BTW he's not Spanish either, he's just another knucklehead from the Distrito Federal. I know plenty of Mexicans who are better players than RD and don't have his crappy attitude.

Polly want a cracker?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 0:31:08
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to flamencositar

I remember the RD fiasco and to me it was all overblown. If RD did send some lawyer correspondence then the recipient should have given the response a flying f***. RD had the financial wherewithal to do f*** all in the end.

Anyways he is gone, booted from this community and so is Jason. Both great players with the ability to rile the nest.

One does wonder how things would be if RD And Jason could still contribute. What good stuff have we missed?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 3:40:56
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to flamencositar

PS when I think about how this thread started... jeesh. big whoop, female vs male guitars. Why even bring that up to the detriment of RD who cannot defend himself here? Assassinate!

There is a crap load of stuff out there. Some believe in moon wood... and so be it.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 3:54:20
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to kudo

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so when you a foreigner who only goes to visit andalucia a couple times a year or even live there a few years - then after you go back to your country you start claiming to be "an expert" or "professional", start flexing your flamenco muscles and all that ego BS crap ! many of you do that i am sure !

at the end, ofcourse ruben will say after all that, that you have no idea what you are talking about ! its very understandable !
i know spanish guitarists who live outside of spain and complain that foreigners think that they know flamenco better than them ! ofcourse it will drive them nuts !!


wow Kudo. You really have a problem there.. Go say this somewhere else. This is foroflamenco. The world center of guiry flamenco. Someone might get seriously mad at you.
You may like RD's playing. thats ok. I dont like it. I think its horrible. But the major problem is his total lack of respect towards others. Being players or builders. And I cant see anything understandable in that. Its just bad manners.

And also. Your story about foreigners going back and trying to be superheroes is partly true. I´ve also seen it. But I also know a few very good and very humble foreign guitarists. AND I´ve known a few spanish flamenco guitarists living outside Spain, and promoting themselves as the king and at the same time being very bad players. You have people like that everywhere and its always been like that.
Your picture of what is going on is very narrowminded.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 7:39:14
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to cathulu

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I remember the RD fiasco and to me it was all overblown.


There was a lot that happened behind the scenes that not everyone is privy to. The good professor was a bigger problem than first meets the eye. And then there is the fact that he was a complete fraud in how he represented his guitar line. And he attacked the websites of myself and two guitarists and who knows what else. And the fact that he continues to flagrantly defame whomever he wants and that is super uncool in this business.

So yeah no big deal? We all have to play by the rules but poor RD gets a pass? Not really. I'm willing to cut the guy some slack and be all like "hey yeah live and let live", and all that hippie stuff my parents taught me, but don't ever _Fuuck_with my business again. When you have to engage a lawyer to caution or restrain someone who works in your industry from harming your reputation or business it's a big deal.

Pretty sure Ricardo & Jason feel the same way. And those of us here who try our best to get along in an ego filled world have to have this guy thrown back in our faces with defenders who say we were naughty? Hahahahahahaha

Pretty funny to me.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 7:43:57
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to Mark2

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mark2 -
I've seen some good teachers do the same. Not as easy to do as you might think. TRy playing a syncopated falseta and count at the same time. if that's no problem, then try chewing gum too.


quote:

kudo -
as for the counting thing mezzo: i wish i had teachers who could do that when i first started, it would have made things way easier to understand..and i still need it now when things get crazy complicated. its really hard to do if you really think about it or every try to.. its amazing actually!



I never said that count while playing is easy. I know it's hard to achieve and not everyone is able to do so (especially as well as Ruben is doing it!)
I also never claim that counting is useless. Me count also when I want to be sure of something or to understand a compas phrasing, an ending or a starting phrase...
If I need to count, then I do it when I listen the tune btw, not while trying to reproduce it on the wood.

IMO something is to teach or explain a falsetas or a compas with counting out loud to the student for him to 'get it' (even if from my personnal experience it's not necessary at all as I prefer visual metrone like Flamenco master to do the trick).
But something else is to insinuate that you NEED to count while playing for the shake of understanding what you're doing. That's the weirdo point IMO.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 9:51:56
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to flamencositar

If you want to count when you play try doing palmas in twos while you do taconeo 3-7-8-10-12.

Yeah, 90% of guitar players can't do that, but if they could compas would cease to be a problem.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 11:01:01
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to Anders Eliasson

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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

Go say this somewhere else. This is foroflamenco. The world center of guiry flamenco. Someone might get seriously mad at you.



Best ****ing sentence ever posted on this forum and 100% true
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 11:32:33
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to estebanana

Stephen, I don't know about anyone else on this list but I could play siguriyas and bulerias before I could mentally count them. I think it was learning the falseta and then playing it the way I heard it from the record; letting the music and its compas sink into the inner man, taking root and growing in this path.

It was years before I actually learned how to count it. The same way when I played for dancers....everything just seemed to come out right after working with them for awhile.........I missed the singer style as I didn't work with anyone.

And Ruben, well, It's strange how a thread grows when the principle is not even around.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 12:29:32
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to Anders Eliasson

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Go say this somewhere else. This is foroflamenco. The world center of guiry flamenco. Someone might get seriously mad at you.


Guiry is actually spelled: Guiri

Just thought you should know since you live in Spain I mean, Espainya.
I would hate for an actual Spaniard to think you were Scandinavian by spelling guiri incorrectly.

You're welcome on behalf of all yanquis,
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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 13:12:43
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to Tom Blackshear

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I don't know about anyone else on this list but I could play siguriyas and bulerias before I could mentally count them. I think it was learning the falseta and then playing it the way I heard it from the record; letting the music and its compas sink into the inner man, taking root and growing in this path.

It was years before I actually learned how to count it. The same way when I played for dancers....everything just seemed to come out right after working with them for awhile.........I missed the singer style as I didn't work with anyone.


I would not know I can't play three compases in compas and I stopped caring a few years back. I don't have time to practice and the guitar absolutely kills my back. I have about zero patience for playing guitar and only do enough to make sure they feel right.

It's funny though I have been around a lot of high level dancers and I notice how they mark compas and then notice that guitar players are most of the time clueless about how dancers work with compas. I'm not saying I can play for high level dancers, but I have had many many of conversations with them about what they are doing and thinking about.

Most guitarists are obsessed with falsetas, but not with marking time and playing with sensitivity while just making compas. It's like if a guitarist can play for five minutes with out doing a falseta and make it interesting to listen to that is a good guitarist. Like they have so many ways of expressing compas without playing one fancy thing and the compas grooves when then any falsetas they work into it will groove too.

So my comment was more like if guitarists worked out like dancers. Dancers, whether they count or don't count have to make compas look and feel good even when they are not doing a corte or insane foot work. I think guitar players today put to much emphasis of falsetas and not enough on brilliant, inventive, fresh marking of compas. Well you see and hear the highest level guitar players doing this, and then they do wizz bang falsetas on top of it. And it all works an can be hard to count...But my beef is that who cares if you can play a complex falseta if the marking that underscores it is not inventive and brilliant? I wish guitar players would conceptualize compas more like dancers. Or talk to dancers and ask them how they do that interesting stuff that holds your attention, although they hardly move a muscle. That is fascinating.

but I'm just guiri so what do I know....

Or maybe I just wish I made custom flamenco shoes and was a cobbler so i could hang around the ladies while fitting their shoes. Anyway just saying flamenco is more than falsetas, fancy fasetas played without a deep grounding in marking compas are the least interesting thing in flamenco. Good kick ass accompaniment is more fun.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 13:37:26
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to flamencositar

Behind the scenes, I guess you are right, RD would eventually have tangled with someone else off site if it wasn't you, or Ricardo or other.

But when you think about the silly things that start these things , e.g. male vs females guitars, or Paco is the sole innovator of flamenco, it just seems they escalate way out of proportion. This thread is the perfect example of it and RD isn't even participating lol. It does give one pause.

This is not creationism vs science, now that is worth fighting for!

RD has demonstrated he has some "issues", how we deal with these people makes me wonder if we are doing it right.

This is a problem that is societal at heart. Oh the humanity! Sometimes it seems we just need some humour, a court jester is a valuable thing.

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 13:38:05
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to cathulu

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This is not creationism vs science, now that is worth fighting for!


Ok which side are you on?


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 13:45:10
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to estebanana

I think you can tell with my reference to moon wood, but let's not go there!
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to flamencositar

Are his guitars made in China?

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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to flamencositar

You mean moon spruce? If so there is some thing to that because the tree is sensitive to the environment.

If you are into science you might be interested in the Maunder Minimum time period during the baroque era. I don't think it effected instrument makers so much, but a few years ago there was theory that the Maunder Minimum has something to so with Cremonese wood being so good. The problem is the Maunder Minimum happened and by the time that wood was ready to be harvested the golden Cremona period was mainly over.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum

http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Maunder_Minimum.html

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 14:05:21
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to estebanana

I mean planting and harvesting based on the moon. Not going to go there or I will be banned lol. You can find other thorough discussions about it if you Google it. I will check out the other links. Cheers
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 19:08:09
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to Joan Maher

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Are his guitars made in China?

Mexico.

See also:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=127398&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1


and:
http://www.foroswebgratis.com/tema-las_mejores_guitarras_de_concierto_en_mexico-4372-287011.htm

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 20 2014 20:17:31
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to estebanana

Mariano Cordoba told me that you could play a great bulerias solo with two lousy falsetas if you had great rhythm. Today I don't think that's as true from a comparison standpoint because there are so many great guitarists that can do it all. For me, the compas parts are the ones I like the most. I've been listening to a lot of Vicente lately, and his falsetas, melodies, composed passages are as good as it gets, but when he does the remate and shows a new way of closing, that's often the part that I dig the most. I'm not convinced that exercises like doing this with palmas and tapping your foot on these beats will get a guitarist there. I tried that, it is like juggling-both hands doing something different, but although it feels good, I think it has little to do with following a dancer while playing the guitar.
quote:

ORIGINAL: estebanana

quote:

I don't know about anyone else on this list but I could play siguriyas and bulerias before I could mentally count them. I think it was learning the falseta and then playing it the way I heard it from the record; letting the music and its compas sink into the inner man, taking root and growing in this path.

It was years before I actually learned how to count it. The same way when I played for dancers....everything just seemed to come out right after working with them for awhile.........I missed the singer style as I didn't work with anyone.


I would not know I can't play three compases in compas and I stopped caring a few years back. I don't have time to practice and the guitar absolutely kills my back. I have about zero patience for playing guitar and only do enough to make sure they feel right.

It's funny though I have been around a lot of high level dancers and I notice how they mark compas and then notice that guitar players are most of the time clueless about how dancers work with compas. I'm not saying I can play for high level dancers, but I have had many many of conversations with them about what they are doing and thinking about.

Most guitarists are obsessed with falsetas, but not with marking time and playing with sensitivity while just making compas. It's like if a guitarist can play for five minutes with out doing a falseta and make it interesting to listen to that is a good guitarist. Like they have so many ways of expressing compas without playing one fancy thing and the compas grooves when then any falsetas they work into it will groove too.

So my comment was more like if guitarists worked out like dancers. Dancers, whether they count or don't count have to make compas look and feel good even when they are not doing a corte or insane foot work. I think guitar players today put to much emphasis of falsetas and not enough on brilliant, inventive, fresh marking of compas. Well you see and hear the highest level guitar players doing this, and then they do wizz bang falsetas on top of it. And it all works an can be hard to count...But my beef is that who cares if you can play a complex falseta if the marking that underscores it is not inventive and brilliant? I wish guitar players would conceptualize compas more like dancers. Or talk to dancers and ask them how they do that interesting stuff that holds your attention, although they hardly move a muscle. That is fascinating.

but I'm just guiri so what do I know....

Or maybe I just wish I made custom flamenco shoes and was a cobbler so i could hang around the ladies while fitting their shoes. Anyway just saying flamenco is more than falsetas, fancy fasetas played without a deep grounding in marking compas are the least interesting thing in flamenco. Good kick ass accompaniment is more fun.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 21 2014 0:10:14
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to flamencositar

The next Challenge for playing should be called :

The Compas Challange-

Play two minutes of bulerias with two falsetas each one compas long. One in the first minute and one in the second minute. The challenge needs to include a llamada, a final close and two to four compasses of libre intro. No metronome tracks or palmas tracks. Live palmas allowed as a sub category.

The rest is a set of chords played in bulerias in A phrygian. The basic chords a few passing tonos. That is the set harmonic palette.

Make the most interesting music with two short falsetas.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 21 2014 2:38:54
 
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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to estebanana

quote:

Guiry is actually spelled: Guiri

Just thought you should know since you live in Spain I mean, Espainya.
I would hate for an actual Spaniard to think you were Scandinavian by spelling guiri incorrectly.

You're welcome on behalf of all yanquis,
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The Guiri


You´re right. Its not a word I write soften when writing Spanish. Besides, I do make mistakes when I´m writing and talking and more so when its not my first language. I can imagine that the same thing happens to you.
I´ve been here 13 years. My spanish level is high, but I´m still a guiri and I will always be, so dont be afraid that they will think I´m Spanish. I will never be. My accent, my language errors will always be present, but more so my looks and my behaviors will always be guiri.
Its alright for me. I dont want to be anything else. And especially not something that would be completely impossible.
So when I called foroflamenco for the world center of guiri flamenco, I included myself, just as i included you and the rest. It would be stupid to think we are anything else.

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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to flamencositar

Technically speaking I'm more of a Gaijin than a Guiri, but it's kind of the same thing.

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RE: Ruben Diaz needs to stop. (in reply to estebanana

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

If you want to count when you play try doing palmas in twos while you do taconeo 3-7-8-10-12.

Yeah, 90% of guitar players can't do that, but if they could compas would cease to be a problem.

I haven't actively played guitar for years due to arthritis but I can easily do your compas challenge and count it out loud at the same time. Maybe it has something to do with having a dancer wife .

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