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BarkellWH
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RE: Pity the poor subjunctive (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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I would get the weekend off to a good start by buying a pound of freshly caught ahi --yellowfin tuna No doubt ahi is a very tasty fish. Next time you are in Hawaii, however, let me suggest you order up some opakapaka. Opakapaka, to my mind, is the tastiest fish found in Hawaiian waters. Also known as Hawaiian pink snapper, opakapaka is delicious fileted and baked. (It is also steamed, but in my opinion baked is best.) It is also served as sashimi. Most haoles who visit Hawaii don't know about opakapaka, and I didn't either the first couple of times I visited in transit to the Far East decades ago. On a subsequent transit stop in Honolulu many years ago, however, I had dinner with a Filipina gal I knew well in Jakarta, Indonesia who had since moved to Hawaii. She took me to a seafood restaurant and suggested I order opakapaka. I did, and I was hooked. A superb, delicate texture and taste. Highly recommended. Next time in Hawaii, I suggest you bypass the Safeway and go to one of the seafood markets in Honolulu that specialize in freshly caught opakapaka, ahi, and other seafood. Cheers, Bill
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Date Dec. 31 2013 20:49:01
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BarkellWH
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RE: Pity the poor subjunctive (in reply to aeolus)
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The thing I wonder about is the cave men didn't live very long. I imagine their short life span on average was more a function of their fighting amongst themselves than their diet. To quote Thomas Hobbes from his work "Leviathan." "In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain, and consequently, not culture of the earth, no navigation, nor the use of commodities that may be imported by sea, no commodious building, no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force, no knowledge of the face of the earth, no account of time, no arts, no letters, no society, and which is worst of all, continual fear and danger of violent death, and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short." He was writing of man in the so-called "state of nature," without a social contract to curb violent, anti-social behavior. I assume that Hobbes' quote would pretty well sum up the era in which the cave men lived. Cheers, Bill
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Date Jan. 1 2014 15:44:11
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Richard Jernigan
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RE: Pity the poor subjunctive (in reply to BarkellWH)
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ORIGINAL: BarkellWH Next time in Hawaii, I suggest you bypass the Safeway and go to one of the seafood markets in Honolulu that specialize in freshly caught opakapaka, ahi, and other seafood. Cheers, Bill I had okapakapa a few times at the house of friends in Kaneohe. I shopped the Beretania street Safeway for convenience. Overall the store was better than the Safeway in Montecito, where I shopped when I lived in Santa Barbara. On impulse I tried the ahi. The seafood department was excellent. Hawaiians won't put up with poor quality fish. Here in Austin the only seafood I get regularly is shrimp and flounder from the Gulf at Quality Seafood, or the delicious fried shrimp at the Monument Cafe in Georgetown. But go to the Monument on Friday, that's when the shrimp is fresh. Some of my ex-wife's relatives had cottages on the Oslofjord. On St. John's Day, the longest day of the year, we would sit out on the pier with beer or white wine. Nets would be dipped into the water to capture the tiny shrimp. They would be dumped directly into the boiling pot. Straight out of the water they were deliciously sweet. Gulf shrimp are also sweet straight out of the water, but by the time they get to Austin, even half a day later the sweetness is gone. Day old flounder is better than day old speckled trout from the Texas bays, but speckled trout a couple of hours out of the water is better than flounder, in my opinion. Redfish (spotted sea bass) is the best of Texas fishes. When Paul Prudhomme made blackened redfish popular, the commercial fishermen almost fished them out of existence. My father was one of the leaders in lobbying the Fish and Game Department into tightening the regulations and enforcement. My son says that these days they get out on the water at Port O'Connor at 10 AM and catch their limit of redfish before noon. RNJ
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Date Jan. 1 2014 16:06:34
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BarkellWH
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RE: Pity the poor subjunctive (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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Hasn't this thread diverged somewhat from the use of language.... Would that we were still discussing the demise of the subjunctive, rather than preparation of fish, Richard shopping at Safeway, my love of Opakapaka, and methods for warming up cold fish. If I were in Hawaii now taking in the balmy subtropical breezes and thinking of tonight's seafood dinner, I would not give the subjunctive further thought. Cheers, Bill
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Date Jan. 2 2014 14:02:25
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