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RE: Juan Martin vs PdL
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Florian
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From: Adelaide/Australia
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RE: Juan Martin vs PdL (in reply to henrym3483)
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its like me saying john frusciante is better than vai, or malmsteen or page or any of the other rock gods around, they all have their own sound. that applies to the acctual music yes, taste is free, music is subjectable but talking about technique, musicallity, dificulty of the piece thats not subjective, good technique is good technique. the fact the Paco scales are faster, cleaner and harder than any of the 2 guitarists is not subjective, i think its safe to say its a fact. Pacos pieces are more difficult to perform, again not subjective but a fact. Pacos, music, alot more harmonically sophisticated, WAY WAY more, (mibe subjective, but i doubt it) Finally yes all it matters is the music u like or not and that is your free choice and right, but there is a difference in the skills of the guitarists witch are not subjective they are facts. quote:
my listening list in no particuliar order includes: thats a broad spectrum.and its mainly hampered by the fact i cannot afford cds on a regular basis and finding something like moaraito or el nino miguel in hmv or music megastore is nigh on impossible thats exactly my point, this is why u think this guys are the best, because by the looks of it u have a handfull of guitar cds and its hard to find good flamenco cds in stores. But u can always find Paco Pena and Martin. How could u possiblly judge a movie when you have only seen the previews.
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Date Apr. 4 2006 10:40:13
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Jon Boyes
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RE: Juan Martin vs PdL (in reply to Florian)
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ORIGINAL: Florian quote:
its like me saying john frusciante is better than vai, or malmsteen or page or any of the other rock gods around, they all have their own sound. that applies to the acctual music yes, taste is free, music is subjectable but talking about technique, musicallity, dificulty of the piece thats not subjective, good technique is good technique. the fact the Paco scales are faster, cleaner and harder than any of the 2 guitarists is not subjective, i think its safe to say its a fact. I agree but it goes much, much deeper than just technique IMO. PDL's contribution to flamenco as a living art form today is not really something thats debateable. Its like debating what kind of impact Segovia had on the classical guitar. PDL changed the landscape, whether you are a fan of his music or not. PDL is a household name for most flamencos, whereas most would say 'Juan who?' Again, not wishing to be disrespectful (see my earlier post).
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Date Apr. 4 2006 10:51:30
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henrym3483
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From: Limerick,Ireland
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RE: Juan Martin vs PdL (in reply to Florian)
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thats exactly my point, this is why u think this guys are the best, because by the looks of it u have a handfull of guitar cds and its hard to find good flamenco cds in stores. But u can always find Paco Pena and Martin. How could u possiblly judge a movie when you have only seen the previews. this is the number of guitarist's albums i have for each artist: so i dont think im starved of flamenco guitar -and i kinda worked out ive' spent more than 250€ on this cd colletion. yikes paco de lucia *5albums tomatito*3albums Sabicas*5 albums chicuelo*1 album nino ricardo*4 albums pedro bacan*3 albums juan martin*1 album paco pena*2 albums gerardo nunez*2 technically speaking, most people would give there right testes to have pacos technique, but id say the same of sabicas, tomatito, nino ricardo or gerardo nunez.these guys had/have got skills. if you speak of techniques, everyone has their niches, ie. tomatitos pulgar, sabicas' arrepegio and tremol scales, nino ricardos pulgar-ragueado tech.
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Date Apr. 4 2006 13:16:12
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