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RE: Juan Martin vs PdL
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Ricardo
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RE: Juan Martin vs PdL (in reply to Doitsujin)
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paco do an album with just him, palmas and cante. it'd be great Cositas Buenas track 7 is just guitar palmas cante. On his previous album LUZIA again he had tracks that were only guitar, guitar with Palmas, and one with guitar palmas and dance. Yet the music is still not considered "traditional". quote:
Dont fight please, just some thoughts. I would be happy if somebody would correct me if Im completely wrong. I always feel it is dangerous to make guesses about music history before they had recording technology. I mean look at how some people critique the same music I hear today, and have no clue what they are listening to. It could very well be that there were excellent players at the time of or before R. Montoya that we will never hear, that played circles around their contemporaries that we either heard on record or read about. I take the stuff I read about early flamenco with a grain of salt. I mean remember Gluck or some classical composer tried to transcribe some anonomous guitarist's Solea falseta in the 1800's. So I don't buy it that R. Montoya "invented" all those cool techniques, or took them from classical guitarists of his day. Maybe the 5 note tremolo I could believe. But only strumming chords? We can never REALLY know. VAmigo vs Diego Del Gastor. Amigo is more advanced rhythmically, but uses exagerated dynamics. Diego had simpler rhythms but played more agressively at all times. There are times flamenco needs balls. Tomatito can be directly compared to Ramon Montoya as he recorded his falseta on Guitarra Gitana, the Rondena. Tomatito stretches one phrase in a very nice way in his interpretation. Again I would say Tomatito is much more advanced rhythmically, yet still has the sensetivity for certain lyrical passages. How about Nunez vs Escudero? Listen and compare to make up your own mind. Comparing and contrasting guitarists of different periods is a good way to learn and develop tastes. Like comparing wines of different dates. Bruce Lee (skinny and fast) beat Chuck's butt (fat and slow) in Return of the Dragon. Ricardo
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Date Apr. 7 2006 15:29:55
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RE: Juan Martin vs PdL (in reply to kuealani)
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On his previous album LUZIA again he had tracks that were only guitar, guitar with Palmas, and one with guitar palmas and dance. Yet the music is still not considered "traditional". Funny thing(, or maybe not) is that in the press LuZia was described as "turning back to the roots", i.e. traditional. Anyways I dont care about puro/modern/traditional anymore. I love all music... except HipHop and Metal...sometimes Country (I mean english and german country/folk) and Techno. Sometimes I dont like classical either, as well as Jazz. Rock too. Blues is good, but not always. I fear there are even one or two flamenco tracks that I dont like Cmon, this "categorization" is BS... If you like a piece of music, cool; if not, its ok, too.
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Date Apr. 7 2006 16:31:37
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