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Arash
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Joined: Aug. 9 2006
From: Iran (living in Germany)
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RE: Paco Cepero's conde (in reply to tele)
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ORIGINAL: tele Hello, I'm in Jerez and Paco Cepero said he could sell his 1982 conde for 25,000 euros. What do you think is the reason for such a price request, is it that he has alot of money, he's egoistic or there is a market for such prices these days? I wouldn't be surprised if a rich dude would buy that guitar for that price. The reason of course is he knows he is Paco Cepero and knows that that might add (or for sure adds) to the price. I wouldn't call it egoistic. I would try that too first if i was Paco Cepero or somebody else with a name. But since i am Arash, that will even decrease the price lol So If someone would pay that price, then the guitar was worth 25.000 for THAT person obviously. So why not. Totally legitimate imo. I personally would never pay such a price since you will probably find conde guitars with same quality for under 10.000 euros and i'm not someone wanting to have a guitar just because it way owned or played by a famous player. But there are folks out there willing to pay ridiculous prices for such guitars. So why not. Ehm, ok, to be honest, if Paco de Lucia would consider selling his Conde for 25.000 and if i had the money, i would buy it !!
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Date Dec. 6 2013 15:48:37
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BarkellWH
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From: Washington, DC
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RE: Paco Cepero's conde (in reply to tele)
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I'm I the only one thinking you have to be more than a little egoistic to have the nerve to ask that kind of price just because you're famous? It's not like the seller has a rush or need to sell it but still, come on, I don't think there has been a conde for that kind of price for sale ever. Paco Cepero has always been my favorite tocaor, even more so than the traditionalist Paco Pena. I particularly like Cepero accompanying cantaores. Why do you think he is egotistical to want 25,000 Euros for his Conde? He is a very well-known flamenco guitarist, and he probably does not much care whether someone buys the guitar or not. Why let it bug you? You have the choice of buying the guitar at that price or perhaps negotiating a slightly lower price, or you can walk away. Either way, no harm is done to you. Cheers, Bill
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Date Dec. 6 2013 17:49:22
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Morante
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RE: Paco Cepero's conde (in reply to Arash)
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Paco may be prepotente, but he is not egoistic and is even altruistic. Curiously, I know him personally only through the toros rather than flamenco (we both had abonos in la Plaza de El Puerto de Santa María). The CD of Santiago Donday is a classic example. Santi used to have café in la Plaza de la Catedral every day and when I passed , he always asked me when I was going to record him. But I knew that he wanted 2,000,000 pts up front and that I could not control him in the studio. This CD is a tour de force de Paco, because Santi was not in his best moment. Rancapino hopes that his son will make a CD soon and tells me that Cepero will play. These projects bring in very little money nowadays, but Paco does whatever pleases him. He is rich, more through his compositions than through flamenco, but I think most of us would like to be in his position, where he can live quietly and only involve himself when he is a gusto. ¡Olé Paco!
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Date Dec. 6 2013 23:31:52
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pjn
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From: New York
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RE: Paco Cepero's conde (in reply to tele)
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You call me the F word and ask why I'm rude? And you PM me saying "what's your problem?" And your original post says that Cepero quoted 25,000, now apparently the price has come down to 18 - 20 -- so the way things are going the guitar might eventually be in your price range!! I don't have any problems -- well except that I'm looking for a Gerundino, but it has to be older than a 1975, and be in the US, and for less than $5,000 -- oh, and also I heard that Tomatito won't sell his Reyes for less than 100,000 euros -- I can't stand legendary geniuses using their reputations to make money, that's really f***ed up, know what I mean?
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Date Dec. 8 2013 15:53:28
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