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leigh

 

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Beginners Bulerías 

Hello i am looking for a beginners Bulerías to start on any suggestions ? I was thinking Paco cepero Sueños En Jerez.
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RE: Beginners Bulerías (in reply to leigh

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Hello i am looking for a beginners Bulerías to start on any suggestions ? I was thinking Paco cepero Sueños En Jerez.




Start with the compas first. You can extract the compas portions from any transcription of any player really. There is no "beginner" buleria in the sense of an authentic composition or single recorded performance that is transcribed. You can later take any falseta you want and work on it. The beginner concept should be small chunks of music and get it down before learning more. Take your time and get the rhythm correct.

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El Kiko

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RE: Beginners Bulerías (in reply to Ricardo

Beginner bulerias ..is .any bulerias you can play ..really slowly ...and in compas..

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mark74

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RE: Beginners Bulerías (in reply to Ricardo

should somebody start with solea first as an easier way to try an master the compas?
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rickm

 

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RE: Beginners Bulerías (in reply to leigh

I think he is looking for a chord progression to practice
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manicfingers

 

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RE: Beginners Bulerías (in reply to leigh

Tons of vids on youtube.. search 'bulerias rhythm'.. or 'compás de bulerías'. For example:



If you try to learn 'a piece' (rather than internalising the rhythm and playing simple falsetas over the top of it) you might end up playing the right notes in the right order, but it won't feel and groove like a bulerias. Then you just feel rotten, and wonder what you did wrong, and you question your own abilities <-- been there, done that.

Also search foro flamenco.. tons of old threads on the accentuation of beats 12, 3, 6, 8, 10.

Once you can play the 12 beat cycle, uninterrupted - just strumming, add simple falsetas in while keeping the groove.. try to learn them by ear / by slowing down videos.

Then slowly create your own 'piece', which will reflect your current knowledge / skill level, and will feel comfortable and rewarding, while still sounding like a real bulerias.
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Erik van Goch

 

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RE: Beginners Bulerías (in reply to leigh

Like Ricardo said you have to start with the compas first (the variations on the A and bB chord). Later you can select/study/add individual falsetas that are within reach (technically and musically). You can find some nice ones amongst the more traditional players like Paco Peña. Take your time to develop a good sense of the rhythm and to adapt material you can handle.

you can find 2 falsetas on this page.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=218991&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=&tmode=1&smode=1&s=#220608

this is also a famous one

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=211116&appid=&p=&mpage=2&key=bulerias&tmode=&smode=&s=#212513
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 14 2013 7:28:02
 
leigh

 

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RE: Beginners Bulerías (in reply to leigh

So basically there is no beginners Bulerías just bulerias basics and then add individual falsetas when you can play them up to speed ?
Thank for the input peoples.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 14 2013 9:30:48
 
Erik van Goch

 

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RE: Beginners Bulerías (in reply to leigh

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ORIGINAL: leigh

So basically there is no beginners Bulerías just bulerias basics and then add individual falsetas when you can play them up to speed ?

The trick is to find yourself material that fit's your level of understanding/playing and (ultimately) to make a bulerias out of that material. Over time you can upgrade your bulerias when your abilities raise. At Rotterdam conservatory they have a whole book of material starting with very simple and gradually more demanding compas variations, fallowed by very simple and gradually more demanding falsetas. You start on page 1 and when your abilities grow more and more material comes within reach up to a point were you can have a free pick of the material offered or gather/compose your own material. They do this with most styles, making sure you only select material you can handle, wile garding a wide variety of standard variations of all kind. Playing a complete piece is not the first aim, neigther is playing at full speed.... working on a responsible and future proof technique, musical understanding/execution is. Like Ricardo said the beginner concept should be small chunks of music and get it down before learning more. It's a slow but rewarding process.
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