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Richard Jernigan
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 RE: PDL says you dont need to study ! (in reply to aeolus)
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ORIGINAL: aeolus
True but then there is the problem of cataracts, meaning I can only drive where i have been to, and i am damned if i am going to let some guy hack on my eye balls with an Exacto knife. So i am perfectly willing to live with my limitations as they are.
Different strokes for different folks. The night time glare was getting to me, it was getting hard to read street signs, so I had both eyes done, one in September and and one in October this year. Went in for the operation at 6 AM, done by 7:30, actually on the table for about 30 minutes. They knock you out for about 2 minutes while the Doc puts in the local anesthetic, then you're awake for the rest of the time. Had breakfast and took a nap when I got home, bandage off and business as usual by 11:30 AM.
Not only does the glare not mess with me, but now I can drive without glasses at all. I don't see as well as I did when I was 50 (20/15 then 20/25 now), but it's a vast improvement.
I told the ophthalmologist when I went in for the checkup the next day after the operation that when I moved into my house in 2010, it had been completely rehabbed by the sellers. I thought they had cheaped out by putting in dim lightbulbs. Now it's as though someone had gone through the house and put in bright ones.
With Medicare, total out of pocket cost was $53.00, but I would have gladly paid the whole thing, around $1500. It was worth it.
Larisa said I was trying to be cool, but I was like a kid with a new toy.
RNJ
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Date Nov. 13 2013 22:59:21
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Ruphus
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RE: PDL says you dont need to study ! (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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Late to the party, but timely enough to thank Shroomy for the translation.
Looks like Paco observed something similar like me.
Further, surgical awareness on theory can result into overly interpretation of music that has merely been born of unconscious wisdom like experience, intuition and harmonical talent, policing the matter way more strictly than meant by the inventor.
Which is my subjective feeling on some of Ricardo´s interpretations.
Just like it would be dumbfounding if theoretical skills rendered the C d Aranuez as "BS". However, I suppose that to be less bound to notation than to the subjectivity on Ricardo´s side. Similar with needless elevating Paco to learning the Aranuez within minutes after spear fishing.
But the maestro provides more than enough skills and self-confidence to have sincerely told how he learned the notation.
Finally, must have been Ricardo´s worshipping strategy how he missed out on Pepe Romero on the list of players of the concierto, who in fact played it best of all - to my taste.
( A topic I been tarred and feathered for already when new on the forum, when I mentioned the other gig when Paco lost the notes of his part in the concierto, with the audience whistling and booing.)
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Interesting about lazering the eyes. Been talking about such with a friend, who was suspicious about damages through the operation. ( Mentioning burned recpetors?)
Told him how newspapers were reporting very positively already ~ 15 years ago. ( Olympic biathlon athletes lazered to over 100%, etc.) And how today things ought to be better with even less damages.
Aeolus,
Are you not concerned about risk for other traffic participants when driving with cataract?
My mother completely stopped driving for much less of unpredictability.
Ruphus
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Date Nov. 14 2013 10:56:43
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aeolus
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RE: PDL says you dont need to study ! (in reply to BarkellWH)
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Having just this year entered my septuagenarian decade, I am not yet ready to think of an epitaph. But should fate decree one necessary, I can think of nothing better than the lines Lady Caroline Lamb wrote in her diary about her lover, Lord Byron, upon his death.
"He was mad, bad, and dangerous to know."
Would that there were some fair ladies who would write that about me in their diaries.
It may be too early to start thinking of an epitaph, but maybe not. Visiting Keats grave in Rome one can read his:Here lies one whose name was writ on water Filching that would be presumptuous but a minor poet who lived a little later, David Gray, suggests a more obscure quote might escape detection: here lies one whose name was traced in sand My earliest memory was playing in the sand at Boca Chica at the mouth of the Rio Grande. My family rented cottages there during the summer. A hurricane obliterated them.
While I should be buried next to my wife in the local cemetery, I am tempted by a natural burial further up the road.
Natural burial allows your body and soul to entwine with all the beauty that Mother Nature has to offer:
no embalming fluid
no concrete vaults
burial shrouds, pine and wicker caskets
preservation and enhancement of the natural surroundings
natural stone markers
hand dug burial sites
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Date Nov. 14 2013 12:31:08
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Ricardo
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From: Washington DC
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RE: PDL says you dont need to study ! (in reply to Blondie#2)
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ORIGINAL: Blondie#2
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ORIGINAL: mark indigo
maybe he did the same thing for both....
Paco's own words:
'I had to learn this concierto without knowing how to read a stave. I came here with a music book that indicated the meaning of each note in the score. I played for 12 hours in a row everyday for a month'
He probably tried that at first, but basically he is lying here. He made this statement in early interviews to show that it was a challenge for him cuz he is sort of 'proud" to not be able to read. Sort of like, don't look down your nose at flamenco because even without education I can do what you guys do BETTER. He was a little peeved I think about comments on his playing in the past by segovia, who said PDL playing fast scales is NOT technique, etc. It ties in to the concert he cancelled due to the triple billing with Placido Domingo and Julio Iglesias, the advertising put his group in small print. He felt only in spain that BS occurs...cuz flamenco people are "low class". It is obvious why Paco accepted the challenge to do Concerto to rub his art in the face of spanish classical snobs, just as in 1975 when he got himself and hundreds of gitanos in the doors of the Teatro Real.
Truth is, he is BS ing everyone cuz the song is NOT that hard to play, relatively speaking. years later he was "outed" in a classical guitar magazine by his buddy Jose Maria Gallardo del Rey. He basically said NO paco did not learn it from the score at all, it was too time consuming, so he just showed him how to play it in person....traditional flamenco style. (Mclaughlin and Al Di did the same since paco couldn't read charts or even pick up every detail from the tapes they sent him, but in minutes he learned the trio stuff face to face). JMG del rey also conducted the orchestra the first times Paco performed it. But basically Paco got the thing by ear. Paco's statement "he wanted to play as written" is referring ONLY to the rhythm and tempos etc. AS I said it is not LITERALLY playable fingering wise and every player adapts parts. Paco doesn't read music but understands, obviously, the mathematics of rhythm and that if it could be written then it CAN be played in tempo plus some nice soniquete...unlike what he had been hearing others do. Still, as Erik mentioned, we notice he does in fact copy some of the classical player nuances especially movement II....I blame JMG del Rey for that.
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Date Nov. 14 2013 14:12:33
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Richard Jernigan
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From: Austin, Texas USA
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RE: PDL says you dont need to study ! (in reply to aeolus)
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ORIGINAL: aeolus
What I learned from this second visit, for a week, is they don't really care if you suffer. whether it's the DEA or what they don't give you enough dope and believe me broken ribs hurt!
At age 91 my mother had major abdominal surgery. I spent the night at her bedside afterward. Her only complaint was that her back hurt. I went to the ward nurse's station and reported. I was ignored.
The next morning my brother and his wife came by after church. The hospital is part of the large medical complex at Galveston. For years my sister-in-law ran the nurse practitioner education program. My brother was head of the Aerospace Medicine Department at the medical school.
My sister-in-law asked my mother how she was. My mother replied, "I'm doing OK"
I said, "Her back hurts."
My sister-in-law asked, "Would you like something for it?"
"It might help."
My sister-in-law went to the nurse's station and brought the head nurse into the room. My sister-in-law said, "This woman is one of the toughest people I know. She is not a cry baby. When she says her back hurts, she needs some pain medication."
In five minutes a young M.D. with a neatly trimmed VanDyke beard appeared from the Pain Management Department. Right away he was saying, "Yes, Mrs. Jernigan, No Mrs. Jernigan, of course, Mrs. Jernigan, right away Mrs. Jernigan." My brother stood silently in the background. The young M.D. was well aware of who my brother was, but he was taking his orders from my sister-in-law, the nurse practitioner. He knew who she was too, and that she wasn't going to take any bull s h i t from him.
A machine was promptly rolled into the room. An intravenous injection was hooked up. The machine delivered medication when my mother pressed a button.
When my brother and sister-in-law came back to take over for the night, I said, "I'm glad you showed up when you did. Those people just ignored me."
My sister-in-law just frowned and shook her head.
RNJ
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Date Nov. 14 2013 16:16:13
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Ricardo
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From: Washington DC
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RE: PDL says you dont need to study ! (in reply to Paul Magnussen)
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the song is NOT that hard to play, relatively speaking.
We are still talking about the Concierto de Aranjuez, right? Do I gather correctly that you had no problem with it? If so, you are in a very small minority.
Schott, who publish it, used to grade most of their music from 1 (very easy) to 6 (very difficult). The Concierto was one of only two guitar pieces graded 7 — virtuosic. The other was the Bach Chaconne.
P.S. Dare I add that it’s not a song (despite the addition of crappy lyrics to it by who-cares-whom)?
Well... sorry but who graded it and can he or she play La Barrosa?
I restate that it was not that hard ..... RELATIVELY speaking....that being it's Paco we are talking about and he plays other stuff you can grade as you like. I admit already concerto is UNPLAYABLE until you make adaptations, then it becomes pretty easy. Chaconne segovia version for example (cuz again it's adapted from violin versions) I would say orders of magnitude way more challenging to pull off except it is a solo so you won't get nervous screwing up with an orchestra...or at least a piano accompanist as I did in college.
I know classical players are scared of it cuz it has a fast scale section and some strumming. 
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Finally, must have been Ricardo´s worshipping strategy how he missed out on Pepe Romero on the list of players of the concierto, who in fact played it best of all - to my taste.
oh missed that before Ruphus. No, I clearly caught him and Yamashita with my "etc, etc", end of my "list". 
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