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guitarbuddha

 

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Ted Greene 

For all Ted fans. I thought I had seen everything there was to see of Ted Green and I just came across this video.

I am going to watch it now with the CERTAINTY that I will learn something. Here is the link.

  Report Abuse |  Date Oct. 5 2013 10:34:19
 
Ricardo

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RE: Ted Greene (in reply to guitarbuddha

OFF TOPIC!!

but very interesting. I have loads of respect for the jazz discipline. This particular workshop is not so easy to follow without the BOOKLET he refers to. But a lot is implied for a general idea. Would really make more sense if you could have the book references.

My only pet peeve about the jazz guitar style is that SO MANY players need to use the electric guitar with the damn tone knob down to like ZERO. God that is annoying. It makes all that beautiful harmonic color dynamically blend together for a fuzzy warm bland soup sound. I can't hear a darn thing with that tone all the time for every freaking song. I can understand it for the occasional ballad, but like for his progression 8... I can't hear a key or anything its just chomping atonally along with no dynamic or color. A simple thing like turn the tone up to 10 would really make a difference for me, but that is taste I guess. The soloing also bothers me in that the lines, again because of the tone, only 50% is actually audible. The notes just disappear dynamically, especially in the basses. It's really annoying. THe same player on an acoustic guitar sounds far more interesting just because of this tone issue.

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  Report Abuse |  Date Oct. 5 2013 17:24:10
 
Rui Martins

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RE: Ted Greene (in reply to Ricardo

You could try the fusion guys. Alex Hutchings for instance has great tone, articulation and never gets boring.

Anyways, I share your pain... thats why my electric guitars dont even have a tone knob. A coil split switch is waaaaay more useful than that tone sucking pot.
  Report Abuse |  Date Oct. 5 2013 17:32:43
 
guitarbuddha

 

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RE: Ted Greene (in reply to Ricardo

This video was new to me and I have been enjoying it all day. I am on my fourth listen.

If you look at the comments on youtube there is a link to the booklet. Here it is.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/151727605/Ted-Greene-Session-With-the-Stars

The video is very short, under an hour. By my reckoning it is about twelve years too short

Ted is definately my favourite jazz pedagogue and it is a happy coincidence that he is also a guitarist.

I am just about getting to the stage where I can play along. The comment he makes that he might do an advanced session is HILARIOUS.

About his tone well that is his choice and I respect it. I don't know how the EQ on this digitisation compares to the original but it is important to remember that this is all about comping. For sure electric guitar is more mushy than acoustic but Ted played mostly with singers and 'keeping out of the way' is important.

It is a different easthetic. As an accompanist in jazz you want to express the harmony and kind of provide a 'colour wash' like a watercolour. He has a bassline and a, when he wants it, a moving treble but the rest is meant just to imply the chord of the moment and provide a sense of movement.

Off topic ? Well don't want to offend the 'Puro Guys'. My posts are irrelevant enough as it is.

D.
  Report Abuse |  Date Oct. 5 2013 19:10:28
 
Erik van Goch

 

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RE: Ted Greene (in reply to guitarbuddha

Didn't know this guy yet...... he's an absolute giant, thanks for sharing. Personally i don't consider this to be off topic at all. PDL calls everything that inspires him "flamenco" and i believe this is great inspiration. On top, since flamenco loves to embrace new influences what's wrong with watching/studying some excellent and pure blooded examples ? In Rotterdam precent day flamenco students actually are trained in "non flamenco" lines like this in order to enrich there harmonic and musical pallet. One of our guest flamenco singers once graphed a guitar during the break and enjoyed himself with a rumba packed with jazzy chords that was a total treat for both the ear and the soul.
  Report Abuse |  Date Oct. 5 2013 19:17:59
 
Pgh_flamenco

 

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RE: Ted Greene (in reply to guitarbuddha

Lots of great pedagogy from Ted over the years. I have an early version of this book: http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Guitar-Single-Note-Soloing/dp/0769209726/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1380997326&sr=1-3&keywords=ted+greene

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