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BarkellWH
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 RE: Beer Pornography (in reply to Leñador)
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Now your speaking my language!
Ditto for me, Lenador. Guitarbuddha, rejoice in the decadence! Thrill to the indecency!
The Washington, DC area has some very nice micro-brews, and some good Belgians on tap as well.
Here's what I cannot understand: With all the good micro-brews and very good bottled beers available today, why do so many (in the U.S. at least) think it is so cool to order Corona? Does the lemon wedge give them a turn-on? To my mind, Corona tastes like piss. I have some favorite Mexican beers I like very much: Bohemia and Dos Equis, both brewed in Monterrey; and Pacifico, brewed in Mazatlan, to name three. I really like good Mexican beer, but drinking Corona is like drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon. Oh well, each to his own.
I occasionally participate in U.S. military command post exercise simulations, providing foreign policy input into the mix. A few years ago we were conducting an exercise at Grafenwohr, Germany, about 30 Kms from Pilzen in the Czech Republic. One day we wrapped up the exercise early and drove to Pilzen, toured the Pilzen Urquell brewery, and "sampled" the product all afternoon and into the evening. The hosts at the brewery were most accommodating. (One poor devil in our group was tapped as the designated driver. We were a responsible lot!) Anyway, I can attest to the fact that freshly brewed Pilzner Urquell is very good indeed.
Nevertheless, it is hard to beat a good Belgian.
cheers,
Bill
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With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."
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Date Aug. 2 2013 18:12:49
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BarkellWH
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RE: Beer Pornography (in reply to Sr. Martins)
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Carlsberg has always been one of my favorites, too. It is one of the few mass-produced beers (found all over the world) that I really enjoy. I have to say I like Heineken as well.
Another beer that I have always liked is Tiger, a Singaporean beer that is brewed under license in other Asian locales as well. I was first introduced to Tiger beer when I was on a four-year assignment to the American Embassy in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Tiger was available in Malaysia, and I drank it there and, of course, on many trips to Singapore as well.
Cheers,
Bill
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And the end of the fight is a tombstone white,
With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."
--Rudyard Kipling
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Date Aug. 2 2013 20:41:19
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Richard Jernigan
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RE: Beer Pornography (in reply to BarkellWH)
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Does the lemon wedge give them a turn-on?
Do you know how the lime wedge with Mexican beer originated? Brace yourself. I am about to tell you.
The first canned Mexican beer was Tecate, produced on the Baja California/California border. The U.S. breweries were switching to extruded aluminum cans, so Tecate got a good deal on machinery that produced the old tin plated steel cans.
The big beer market was in central Mexico, a long trip across the Sonoran desert from Tecate. The truck refrigeration often was ineffectual or non-existent. The beer got parboiled in the hot sun, giving it a distinctly metallic taste. Not good. The technological advancement of canned beer was a source of pride among some Mexicans, however.
Ever ingenious, some Mexican discovered that if you squeezed some lime juice into the parboiled beer, it overwhelmed the metallic taste. The rest is history.
When I am served a bottle of Modelo Especial at my favorite local taco joint, I lay the lime wedge aside, for use on the tacos al pastor. By now the waitresses bring me a chilled mug without my asking.
The last time I was in Merida, Yucatan I found a sidewalk cafe with a pretty good band playing across the pedestrian street. I settled into my chair and ordered enchiladas, while the band was playing. Soon enough the current perversion arrived, a michelada: a beer mug with a good deal of lime juice in it, crusted with salt around the rim. One is expected to put beer in there and drink it.
I left it alone, and waited for the enchiladas. After a while I flagged down the waiter and asked. He thought I had said "michelada" instead of "enchiladas". Everything was promptly set right, the michelada was removed, and I enjoyed my Montejo oscura with the enchiladas de pollo en salsa verde.
RNJ
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Date Aug. 3 2013 15:49:19
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BarkellWH
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RE: Beer Pornography (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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The continued use of the lime wedge in beer (most prominently with Corona in the US) is, and has been for a long time, just a marketing ploy. American college students (and others as well) think they are participating in an old Mexican tradition. Laughably, they think it makes for a more "authentic" experience.
The same sort of ritualistic search for the faux "authentic" revolves around the worm (the agave worm) placed in a bottle of mezcal by Mexican bottlers. This, too, is a marketing ploy. (For some reason, the myth has gained credence among many that the worm is found in bottles of some tequilas. It is not. It is, and always has been, placed in mezcal at the time of bottling.) Various explanations have been advanced: It adds flavor, it acts as an aphrodisiac, it allows one to demonstrate one's macho side by swallowing the worm, etc. In fact, the agave worm adds nothing to mezcal. Nevertheless, the tradition has been implanted in people's minds to the point where if they did not see the worm in a bottle of mezcal, they would not consider it authentic mezcal.
Friedrich Nietzsche had a wonderful aphorism that describes this type of groupthink. He termed it "Laughable": "Look! Look! He runs away from men: they follow him, however, because he runs before them, they are such a gregarious lot!"
It would seem that marketers of Mexican beer and mezcal have read their Nietzsche.
Cheers,
Bill
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And the end of the fight is a tombstone white,
With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."
--Rudyard Kipling
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Date Aug. 3 2013 16:53:38
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BarkellWH
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RE: Beer Pornography (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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I'll have lime with beer when it suits me dammit.
As well you should.
If I could shift the emphasis from beer to lemons, I will reveal that I love lemon juice on all seafood. I love to bathe fish in lemon juice. And, of course, the combination melted butter and lemon juice enhances everything from lobster to escargot. I even bathe french fries in lemon juice. I realize that this lemon juice fetish probably would bar me from circulating in higher social circles, in which case I would revert to drinking beer, sans the wedge of lime.
Cheers,
Bill
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And the end of the fight is a tombstone white,
With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."
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Date Aug. 3 2013 23:10:53
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BarkellWH
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RE: Beer Pornography (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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Switching from beer to wine. I just read in this morning's "Washington Post" that a case of 1998 vintage Bordeaux (Chateau Petrus) set a record at a London auction house in June, going for US$41,500. That works out to US$3,458 per bottle! Now that is truly pornographic!
I am reasonably conversant with wine: taste, bouquet, vintage, etc. But I'll bet I could not tell a great deal of difference in quality of taste between the above-cited 1998 Chateau Petrus, at US$3,458 per bottle, and a good, reasonably-priced bottle of Bordeaux bought at a local wine shop.
I would like to see all those who bid astronomical sums on the case of Chateau Petrus blindfolded and subjected to a wine-tasting of different Bordeaux wines, including the Chateau Petrus. It would be interesting to see how many of them could actually pick out the US$3,458 Chateau Petrus Bordeaux from the less expensive bottles.
Pornography for wine snobs.
Cheers,
Bill
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And the end of the fight is a tombstone white,
With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."
--Rudyard Kipling
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Date Aug. 4 2013 13:58:15
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Richard Jernigan
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From: Austin, Texas USA
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RE: Beer Pornography (in reply to Leñador)
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ORIGINAL: Lenador
I feel like once you get above about $30 a bottle it's nearly impossible to distinguish. I would challenge anyone to determine the difference between a $40 bottle and an $80 bottle.
But at $41,500 per case, it's not the taste that counts, it's the price.
Years ago a friend of mine proposed a way to simplify the merchandising business. Instead of hiring designers, choosing a look, having clothes made to a distinctive style, and charging people out the kazoo, just print up little tags to be pinned in a prominently visible spot to a coat or blouse, charging accordingly:
"Neiman Marcus, $2,298"
"Saks Fifth Avenue $3,295"
"Balenciaga $13,295"
etc.
RNJ
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Date Aug. 4 2013 19:39:17
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Richard Jernigan
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RE: Beer Pornography (in reply to Ricardo)
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I went into the hotel bar in Bedford, England. A little surprised to notice there was a tap for Guiness. Even more surprised when it turned out to be quite cold, and said so.
"Kills the taste," said the barkeep.
On the other hand: Went with my friend John Parker, now sadly deceased, to his local, the Round Oak Tavern, out in the country in Berkshire. The Round Oak tree still stood out in front. I hope it still does. John and his brother owned Round Oak Cottage, a substantial two story house across the road. Its elaborately manicured roof won the "Best Thatch" prize year after year. House and parts of the Tavern date back at least to the 15th century.
It was near Christmas, and quite cold outside. At lunchtime a new barrel of ale, which had been sitting out in the cold, was brought in and hooked up to the tap. There was an immediate chorus of grumbling from the customers, grousing about the cold beer.
RNJ
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Date Aug. 4 2013 21:51:31
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lol jk, different strokes for different folks, I'm way nerdy, each type of beer has an ideal temperature for me. At the same time though, hand me a flat room temperature bud light and I'll still drink it