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guitarbuddha

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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ORIGINAL: guitarbuddha

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ORIGINAL: Paul Magnussen

Very true. The National Enquirer is a much more reliable journal than New Scientist, too. People are so imperceptive about these things.

Yeah Paul, I see lots of people wearing hats but really a slice of toast does just as well.

D.

I've been thinking about this and I feel I should add that although a slice of toast can do well them hats sure are delicious.

D..

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brandoscostumes

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to lukeofgod)

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ORIGINAL: lukeofgod

This is definitely a joke lol.

this isnt like 9/11 or AIDS. you cant make jokes like saying siroco is a 7 you will live and die alone

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rickm

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to brutal truth)

paco overrated? didn't they say the same thing about sabicas, and Segovia and Hendrix? I should be able to play in such a over rated way. I'd snoopy dance for his fingers.

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bursche

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to El Kiko)

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Cool topic. The most overrated guitarist still is Eric Clapton, though.

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Leñador

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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The most overrated guitarist still is Eric Clapton, though

More then Slash??

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tri7/5

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to guitarbuddha)

The best "shreds" video is still Santana... Paco's is pretty good too only because of the guy on the congas.

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Paul Magnussen

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to bursche)

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The most overrated guitarist still is Eric Clapton, though.

He’s produced his fair share of crap, certainly. But if we’re going to rate people (a pretty futile pursuit anyway, in my view — you only have to look at the Guitar Player polls to see that), I think it has to be at their best.

At the Prince’s Trust Rock Gala 1987, George Harrison played While My Guitar Gently Weeps with Ringo and Eric. At the end, instead of finishing as on the record, Harrison and Clapton just take off and soar. It’s one of the most brilliant rock performances I’ve ever seen.

Look out for the DVD, it seems to be quite rare. I had to get mine from Hong Kong.

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FullMetalGuitarist

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to guitarbuddha)

I guess "brutal truth" is the creation of mad doctor D

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por medio

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to bursche)

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Cool topic. The most overrated guitarist still is Eric Clapton, though.

Whoa that was bad. Not in "awesome-bad" way but just bad. I thought he'd given up on drugs.

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El Kiko

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to tri7/5)

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The best "shreds" video is still Santana... Paco's is pretty good too only because of the guy on the congas.

But theres one of them both (Clapton and Santana ) shredding together ......
Pacos is not pretty good I think its the best one as he follows the whole band really close.... time to watch Paco shredding again maybe ??

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Adam

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to por medio)

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ORIGINAL: por medio

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Cool topic. The most overrated guitarist still is Eric Clapton, though.

Whoa that was bad. Not in "awesome-bad" way but just bad. I thought he'd given up on drugs.

Sadly he's still struggling with it. He gave some to Paco in the 70s - fortunately he kicked the habit, but not before this kind of thing happened!

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El Kiko

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to Adam)

sounds like Paco stole a lot from me ... I know he will deny this ..... the golpe at 0;21 one of my highlights ..as he actually looks around to do it ... classic .....

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Sean

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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Sadly he's still struggling with it. He gave some to Paco in the 70s - fortunately he kicked the habit, but not before this kind of thing happened!

That was truly one of the worst performances by a guitarist, ever.

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to Adam)

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Sadly he's still struggling with it. He gave some to Paco in the 70s - fortunately he kicked the habit, but not before this kind of thing happened!

Hadn't seen that one yet. Classic, nearly sh@t myself.

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estebanana

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Kiwi salsa for Pork Chops:

Apologies to all who don't like pork, but the salsa itself is vegetarian. I hope you try to make it and let me know how it works. I came up with this one night last week.

Two kiwi, I used one green and one gold.

Half a red onion

One and half small red bell pepper or one large.

Chop the onion fine and carmelize it by cooking slow in olive oil and adding a bit of honey or sugar. Set aside.

Saute' finely chopped bell pepper in one table spoon red chili oil. Add a bit of olive oil.

Slice Kiki into small cubes. Add Kiwi and onion to peppers and when pepper is browned and soft.

Add more red chili oil and salt to taste and a few table spoons water and cook together for 5 to 10 minutes.

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Habanero Lime salsa for Pork

One Habanero pepper

One large white onion

Juice of two or three good limes.

Chop onion and habanero as fine as you can, add lime juice. Few pinches of salt.

Mileage varies according to how much habanero you use. Sometimes a sprinkle of balsamic vinegar is good.

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to estebanana)

Is this for me ?

So basically replace tomatoes with a fruit of similar density and acidity in any recipe. The original poster(his objective accomplished) has retired.

I have been taking care to address posts to the person I wish to address. That has not always been noticed but I think it is a good habit.

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

Kiwi salsa for Pork Chops:

Apologies to all who don't like pork, but the salsa itself is vegetarian. I hope you try to make it and let me know how it works. I came up with this one night last week.

Two kiwi, I used one green and one gold.

Half a red onion

One and half small red bell pepper or one large.

Chop the onion fine and carmelize it by cooking slow in olive oil and adding a bit of honey or sugar. Set aside.

Saute' finely chopped bell pepper in one table spoon red chili oil. Add a bit of olive oil.

Slice Kiki into small cubes. Add Kiwi and onion to peppers and when pepper is browned and soft.

Add more red chili oil and salt to taste and a few table spoons water and cook together for 5 to 10 minutes.

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Habanero Lime salsa for Pork

One Habanero pepper

One large white onion

Juice of two or three good limes.

Chop onion and habanero as fine as you can, add lime juice. Few pinches of salt.

Mileage varies according to how much habanero you use. Sometimes a sprinkle of balsamic vinegar is good.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 26 2013 1:25:13

Adam

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to chester)

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ORIGINAL: chester

Jerry Nunez. I've been laughing at that for the past 15 minutes or so.

Well done Adam! (and thank you)

Should've been Vinnie Amigo as well.

Actually, it's based on a true story. You'd be surprised how many people at his course in Sanlúcar have taken to calling him that...

(Jerry doesn't seem to mind at all!)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 26 2013 1:35:01

Leñador

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Tips for grilling pork chops:

- Let your chops come to room temperature before grilling.
- Pork is grilled at a lower temperature then steak but not LOW, you should cook pork to just 144 fahrenheit in the center, though chances of trichinosis are more then a million to one.
- Pork loves citrus flavors

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Adam

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to guitarbuddha)

This thread is fast becoming very offensive to our Jewish, Muslim, and vegetarian friends.

For shame, you two. For shame.

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to Adam)

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ORIGINAL: Adam

This thread is fast becoming very offensive to our Jewish, Muslim, and vegetarian friends.

For shame, you two. For shame.

Yup, thats right I was involved.

(well actually I wasn't but now youve suggested that in a post it will become true for anyone who want's it to)

D.

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to Leñador)

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ORIGINAL: Lenador

Tips for grilling pork chops:

- Let your chops come to room temperature before grilling.
- Pork is grilled at a lower temperature then steak but not LOW, you should cook pork to just 144 fahrenheit in the center, though chances of trichinosis are more then a million to one.
- Pork loves citrus flavors

You wanna hear my advice on browning meat at 98 f ?

Top tip for grilling though is add salt to meat and then let it come up to room temperature well in advance of cooking. That way heat gradient allows the extinction of bacteria at centre before overcooking. Less moisture on surface improves texture and the salt which drew the moisture out is yummy.

D.

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Leñador

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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Top tip for grilling though is add salt to meat and then let it come up to room temperature well in advance of cooking. That way heat gradient allows the extinction of bacteria at centre before overcooking. Less moisture on surface improves texture and the salt which drew the moisture out is yummy.

Great advice, but be aware of the salt content of your accompanying sauce and try to adjust accordingly.

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Escribano

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to brutal truth)

I was watching this thread from Barcelona, where I enjoyed a couple of excellent days of work. No time for the tablaos I am afraid, but it was great to taste jamón, manchego and fresh calamares Romana again.

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Leñador

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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Sauce on grilled meat?? Blasphemy!

I'm right there with you in terms of beef(the blood's the sauce), but sometimes pork can be okay with a little chimichurry or mushroom sauce......

I'm giving this thread a 10/10 after all this food talk....

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BarkellWH

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to Leñador)

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I'm right there with you in terms of beef(the blood's the sauce), but sometimes pork can be okay with a little chimichurry or mushroom sauce......

Agree absolutely! A great medium-rare steak should not be adulterated (blasphemed!) with sauce. But I love pork chops with a rich mushroom sauce on them.

Cheers,

Bill

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El Kiko

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to Escribano)

Manchego ?? jamon .?? ..I thought they ate more like Pan con Tomate and Faves a la catalana like habas with various types of embutidos,

Got to admit I only went up there once on a motorbike and fell off in a place called Ripoll ....

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kudo

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RE: Paco De Lucia overrated (in reply to FredGuitarraOle)

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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Amazing topic!!!

Brutal Truth... great nickname... too bad you don't do it justice...

Seriously, did you just create an account on the Foro to post this?

EDIT:
Actually, now that I think about it, this looks like a lot of fun! Both for you and for the rest of us haha