New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Classes Caño Rotoy by Jerónimo Maya dvd

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New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Classes ...

Interesting.
Does anyone know how the quality is of these series?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2013 8:06:34

Elie

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

one of my favorite flamenco players
thank you for posting, its gonna be my next purchase

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2013 9:09:47

johnnefastis

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

Is it out yet ?

Cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2013 11:18:18

Munin

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

Weren't there already 5 million threads on this? Anyway kudo has the two previous DVDs so he can probably comment on the general quality.

This video was uploaded 2 days ago so they're probably releasing it soon. I'm personally more interested in Jeronimo's new album though, which they want to release simultaneously.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2013 12:38:30

orsonw

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to johnnefastis)

Available April 11th

https://www.lasonanta.eu/en/flamenco-clases-de-guitarra-dvd-partituras/flamenco-guitar-maestro-classes-jeronimo-maya-cano-roto.html

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2013 12:40:17

kudo

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

this one seems to be better done than the previous 3DVDs and books. im getting it!! :)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2013 13:38:53

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2013 15:22:29

mark indigo

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to kudo)

Anyone know what the 4 cd tracks are?

quote:

this one seems to be better done than the previous 3DVDs and books.

what seems better about this one?

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some of the previous ones took undeserved bashing

i remember some comment about the Paco Fernandez vids being too hard - this one from Jeronimo will probably be harder!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2013 17:49:43

orsonw

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to mark indigo)

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Anyone know what the 4 cd tracks are?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2013 22:29:09

johnnefastis

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

I think I need the Glossary now.

Anyone know what El Cantor and Cejilla techniques are.
In the video El Cantor looks like some kind of rasgueo....

Also what is his Canorroto flamenco guitar technique ?

I searched and found Canorroto is a school in Madrid.
and that "A lot of the canorroto guys like Jeronimo, Jesus, etc love to do rasgeos just with I and M"

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=126084&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=canorroto&tmode=&smode=&s=#126174

Can anyone enlighten me ?

Cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 25 2013 21:08:31

Ricardo

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to johnnefastis)

caño roto is a barrio in madrid, and the gitanos there have their particular playing style, it's not necessarily a "school". El entri teaches that style in madrid, so in that sense there is a "school" of sorts but its the same as any other method of teaching guitar in spain.

Cejilla is using the barre of the index finger. El cantor not sure but my guess is tremolo or something. The pulgar techniques don't seem to be on the list either.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 25 2013 21:16:18

johnnefastis

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

Thanks Ricardo.

Maybe El canto is tremolo with the thumb then ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 25 2013 21:34:33

mark indigo

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to orsonw)

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Anyone know what the 4 cd tracks are?

yeah i did see the contents page, but only recognised one track from Jeronimo cd i have - La Cotorra (Bulerias). Un Cacho De La Luna shows here as Granainas and Bulerias, but from what cd? Has he got a new one coming out?

and Palacio Real and A Tropico? anyone know what they are?

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Maybe El canto is tremolo with the thumb then?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 25 2013 21:53:37

HolyEvil

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

Is Maya a student of the Cano Roto school in Madrid? Taught by El Entri etc?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 25 2013 22:07:07

elroby

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to Ricardo)

El Entri is part of the Jimenez family, he's Jesus de Rosario dad and is widely respected in Cano Roto, an excellent teacher. However at his school he teaches a very traditional style, with lot's of Sabicas and a big emphasis on technique, at least when I was there.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 25 2013 23:07:56

cigany

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

Anyone purchase yet? Reviews?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 8 2013 15:58:24

aeolus

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

Looks like Jeronimo has gone mainstream. Too bad. I liked him better before La Sonanta made him get a hair cut. I don't know if this is flamenco, but it's not calcified I think.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 10 2013 19:11:57

johnnefastis

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

Hi

All of these Jerónimo Maya threads have all gone quiet.
Did anyone get the DVD ? I would love to hear more about it.

Cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 9:15:38

Guest

RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to johnnefastis)

I have the DVD ..
Was advertise here in foro
Lucky Sean lived in the same town
So watched it several times over the last month
Some very interesting techniques presented
Fret tapping
Ie with right hand fret/tap E on 12th fret 6th string
Left hand hammers E on 7th astring and B 9th on fourth ( power chord )
Played in triplets in context of buleria
Like satriani's 'midnight'... Same technique but on bass strings
Single string rasquedo to emulate tremelo , Ist string only

The book is beautifully presented and very clearly transcribed
The compositions are stunning
Good picado exercises
Not much in the way of pulgar
Very modern sounds harmonically .. Say similar to what some Brazilian guitarists are doing
The Family Juerga is great watching
Leonides looks like a merchant banker .. A little disconcerting visually .

Not sure he presents himself as a great teacher.. More a display of his current virtuosity ..also a bit of promotion for his Lazarides signature guitars... Though he family seem to agree nothing will ever beat a good media Luna

Just some overall thoughts
But very well produced...
Lots of info with a variety of subjects..
Will try add more if needed..happy to add more detail

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 11:58:42

Sr. Martins

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to Guest)

You could rip it, then we wouldnt have to bother you with more detaills.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 12:13:12

Guest

RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to Sr. Martins)

Ah that moral dilemma !!

Though very keen to have a look at Myrddin or Paco Fernandez volumes...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 12:22:59

Sr. Martins

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to Guest)

In fact this is one of the few things that I regularly check for availability at some "places"

No luck though

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 12:38:29

guitarbuddha

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to Guest)

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ORIGINAL: AlVal

I have the DVD ..

Like satriani's 'midnight'... Same technique but on bass strings
Single string rasquedo to emulate tremelo , Ist string only

Hey Val cheers for the review.

That actually sounds a lot more like a Satch piece called 'The Headless Horseman'

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 13:03:58

Guest

RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Not up on my satch but that sounds right

Jeronimo mentions his admiration for electric guitarists and their techniques in the DVD
To me it does'nt work as a through composed idea more as a 'party trick' in relation to his bulerias...
A lot of rattling and extraneous noise to my ear...unlike the smooth sound of the above video

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 13:15:53

guitarbuddha

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to Guest)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AlVal

Not up on my satch but that sounds right
Jeronimo mentions his admiration for electric guitarists and their techniques in the DVD
To me it does'nt work as a through composed idea more as a 'party trick' in relation to his bulerias...
A lot of rattling and extraneous noise to my ear...unlike the smooth sound of the above video

Yeah for sure. Even leo Brower has a pieces ideas using these textures. 'Cuban Landscape With Bells' is real good.

Without a doubt the master of that style is far and away Stanley Jordan. Makes all these Andy McKee clones look like children. There is a nice masterclass where he talks about setting up his electric to get rid of the 'puffiness' and the unwanted behind the fret multiphonics.

The two Satch Pieces are actually really easy. For Midnight tie a sock round the first fret and the other piece mute the treble strings with ulnar side of RH palm. You need a guitar with slimline frets well polished.

Best solution on nylon string is to hammer on with two fingers spread far apart so as to mute the multiphonic.

Some other players, like Preston Reed, actually encourage the 'complexity' of the handling noise.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 13:29:55

Guest

RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to guitarbuddha)

A style I've never really looked at...used to teach midnight to kids a decade or so ago...heard about the sock...I just used a capo directly on the nut... Seemed to help
Not a huge Jordan fan but appreciate what's going on there... Like the sonic texture of Tuck Andress though

On topic ?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 13:38:18

guitarbuddha

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to Guest)

Yeah Jordan is a little clunky at times but I think but what he is doing is miles and miles ahead of all the imitators.

Andress is Terrific. I wish he would do another solo album as I don't like the duet stuff so much.

Best Tuck has to be the Schubert Ave Maria.... done in the style of a pedal steel country solo !!!! With reverse bent double stops...... sickeningly good.

The Headless horseman thing is still pretty much Eddie Van Halen but Midnight is lifted directly from four beater classical marimba technique, probably the innovation Satriani will be remembered for.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 13:47:06

Guest

RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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marimba technique

So two guitarists could give Reich a run for his money

I see he's beaten us to it

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 13:58:53

tri7/5

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

Whatever happened to Jeronimo's album that was supposed to coincide with this DVD?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 4 2013 14:34:57

johnnefastis

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RE: New Flamenco Guitar Maestro Clas... (in reply to JJ)

Thanks for the review AlVal.

Sounds good, I for one won't be ripping it. I am sure the guys a La Sonanta are
only scraping by with this stuff and I am looking forward to the Niño de Pura one.

Still not sure I can afford it at the mo so I am not much help anyway.

Cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 5 2013 7:39:40