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kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

Whiskey

Never been so much into alcoholic drinks except for beer and some wines.
Lately I got in touch with whiskey, and I enjoy it very much.
First I got a Glenrothes then a Dalwhinnie, and now an Oban. The last one I don't like I did the others.

I seem to prefer a single malt with a soft taste, but thats just because I have no idea whats more around in the whiskey world. When I search for some information I get overwhelmed with whats around.

Any tips or recommendations?

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El Kiko

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From: The South Ireland

RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

Jamesons Whiskey , very popular where I live and it is made just down the road ... Triple distilled
Its very nice , i am not a big drinker but its always good to have a bottle at christmas...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 23 2012 20:45:40

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From: manitoba, canada

RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

What you have mentioned are Scotch
If you want Whiskey try a Canadian Whiskey
such as Seagrams Crown Royal or Wisers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 23 2012 20:54:19

Leñador

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

Agreed with the Jameson, one of my favorites.

Try Bourbon, it's a form of whisky from Kentucky with corn mash. There's a lot of brands but Makers Mark is pretty common and not bad. Knob creek and Bulleit are pretty good too. CAUTION****Jack Daniels is not Bourbon***!!!

EDIT: haha, everyones waving their own countries flag of whisky, awesome!

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kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Whiskey (in reply to El Kiko)

Thanks Kiko,
You're Irish?

I'll get me a bottle of this one tomorrow!

Tripple distelled, does it mean it got a higher alcohol percentage?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 23 2012 21:00:48

henrym3483

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From: Limerick,Ireland

RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

tullamore dew or bushmills single malt..both irish whiskeys.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 23 2012 21:03:28

guitarbuddha

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

Highland Park (Orkney) the older the better!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 23 2012 21:11:38

Leñador

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

quote:

Tripple distelled, does it mean it got a higher alcohol percentage?

No, just a purer taste.

Side note, if you run cheap vodka through a brita filter 5 times it can taste like top shelf, too bad a I hate vodka......

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 23 2012 21:22:26

El Kiko

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From: The South Ireland

RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

quote:

Thanks Kiko,
You're Irish?

Caramba ,... No Im not Irish,,,sorry ....., not yet anyway but I am living here ..........
I know that Bushmills is the oldest Whiskey distillery in the world .. 1608 ...and still going ,,,, they gotta be doing something right ........

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Flamencito

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

Jameson is my favorite as well. Great price/quality imo

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edguerin

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

From the New Oxford American Dictionary (online):

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 24 2012 9:15:07

Morante

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to El Kiko)

Ordinary Jameson is OK, but there are better versions: Crested Ten is good, but my favourite Jameson is Redbreast.

I have never liked Bushmills malt: their best whiskey is Black Bush.

And another vote for Highland Park, though not for the older ones.

And of course the great Lagavullin from Islay, not for the fainthearted

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 24 2012 10:49:23

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

Thanks guys for all the tips!
I'm gonna get some different bottles today...

What I am not gonna do anymore, is going out and drink in the tempo as my friends do with beer last night...a bit

at the moment...or I'm just not men enough

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 24 2012 12:17:30

Flamencito

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

Hahaha, i was thinking about commenting something like that yesterday as well ;)

Familiar problem to me

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 24 2012 12:19:00

kozz

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to Flamencito)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Flamencito

Hahaha, i was thinking about commenting something like that yesterday as well ;)

Familiar problem to me

Lol!
Just one option left, start again where we've stopped yesterday

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 24 2012 12:48:08

Richard Jernigan

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

If you like the softer scotches, try Macallan and Glenmorangie. Both sell a variety of ages and aging techniques. Some are done in plain oak casks, others in sherry casks, perhaps other aging techniques as well. I more or less alternate bottles of 12-year old, oak finish in each brand. Try 'em, you may like 'em.

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 24 2012 17:41:13

El Kiko

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From: The South Ireland

RE: Whiskey (in reply to edguerin)

quote:

whiskybae, variant of USQUEBAUGH

Edguerin ... this is probably right ,as in Ireland "uisce beatha" (pronounced like "ishkaba-ha" means 'water of life ' uisce being the water bit ...which if you pronounced that phonetically would come out like whiskey ....

But also here uisce beatha would also refer to the "potin" (Pocheen) the illegal and ridiculously strong drink that is still made here..........

best avoid that one .......

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 24 2012 18:13:48

estebanana

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

I like the Scotch whiskeys meself. If I remember right Oban is made closer to the coast and has a peatier stronger flavor. The ones made farther from the ocean tend to be less peaty and smokey.

To me the Jameson, Bushmills, ect. and the other bigger brands are good in drinks, but not sipping Scotch or Irish whiskeys.

A good middle of the road good for the price single malt Scotch is The Dalmore. But stay away from Glennbeck. It sucks, sour and dumb tasting.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 24 2012 22:16:03

Morante

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to estebanana)

Esteban amigo,

you know a lot about guitars and nada about whiskey

, especially Irish. Come to Cádiz for an education! I am sipping a 12 year old Powers at the moment, saving the Redbreast for Christmas!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 24 2012 23:27:20

estebanana

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

Morante,

My point was the bigger brands are not as fun as the less known ones. However, I would like a lesson in Irish whiskeys if you are opening those 12 year old plus bottles! I know more about the Scotch because we have a bar here that serves every Scotch known to man.
I remembered the Oban right: http://www.whisky.com/brands/oban_brand.html

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 25 2012 2:11:46

El Kiko

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to estebanana)

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To me the Jameson, Bushmills, ect. and the other bigger brands are good in drinks, but not sipping Scotch or Irish whiskeys.

Thems there fightin' wordz.........

There are so many people near me right now , who depend upon the crediblity of The Midleton Distillery ( where it is all made) and the proudness is equal to a luthier who made something worthy of note ...( the MAster Brewer ) ..

I saw a Programme once , a long time ago , about Irish and Scottish Whiskey ....
The Programme was done very well, filmed and cut, to make a good point ...who won ...thats always up to the viewer ....

but the main points went like this ......

Scottish .....We have the best Whisky as it is the most well known

Irish ........If you know what is good and bad ... we have the best Whiskey

Scottish.....We have more Whiskys than the Irish ...250 types or more thew Irish only have about 5 or 6 ...so we know ...

Irish ........We only have 5 or 6 whiskeys cos we got rid of all the crappy ones about a hundred years ago , so we just stay with the best, make it better ...........the Scots really dont know what they are doing so they are still messing around with 300 or so awful whiskeys trying to prove something .......

Scottish....We make Whisky with the finest highland water

Irish ........The oldest whiskey Distillery in the world , officially . is in Ireland,,, because we been making it longer ...not copying ....

And so it went on and on ...I kinda think although both put up good arguments The Irish won on just indisputable facts ....

I do know that , having visited the distillery , on a tour , that anyone can do here , you find out that one big difference is that the Irish Whiskey is Dry roasted ,,,,meaning that for the first roast barley is dry roast ,,,,,.. meaning the fire is in a chamber at the bottom ...
and the barley is in a chamber above ,,,,the heat does the work .......

Scots is different as the the fire , water (steam) are in the same room , so its not dry roasted but kinda steam roasted ......this is really the big difference between them ,,,,,,,,,

the triple distilled bit is a kind of controlled fallout .........

its distilled , and thereore sepatated by this process ...however about a third actually goes back in , flavour control here, and it is re distilled ....a small percentage of that is re introduced and it is distilled again , that was basically how they explained it to me

aaaand they gave me loads of free Whiskey to prove their point..so thats proof in itself ....?no?

Funny thing is after all that , I'm not a big Whiskey man ,,.. but My preferred spirit would be RUm ... Black , black Rum ...the blacker the better ....carribean , capitan cutthroat morgan illegal molasses black as coal rum .......

yes please .....

Sorry , I may delete this soon due to typing late at night and whiskey , somehow dont go well /////////////////

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 25 2012 2:21:35

estebanana

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

Well that was kinda of where I was headed, Ireland 6 kinds, Scotland 250 kinds. but I never argue with the Irish about anything Irish or with people who live in Ireland about anything Irish, or those who are Irish who liven in Spain about anything either Spanish or Irish.

However.....since Ron M. is not here to defend the honor of the Scots I will take up the golf club for him.

So I stand by Scotland as a great country for whiskey and that the strength of Scotch lies in the fact that is does have a great and reliable terroir. So Scotch is more diverse in the regions and specific tastes and styles from those regions are fascinating to me.

Which means if you go to bar with 200 kinds of Scotch you simply have 200 reasons to go there until you've tasted all 200 kinds, and then retaste them to make sure you got it the first time.

But if you like your Jameson's then as Ron would say, Cheers!

So lets have one for Ronny and not worry about the nomenclature, pedigree and country of origin, shall we?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 25 2012 2:35:33

El Kiko

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to estebanana)

yeah ... you got it about right now .........

Ron woulnt have let my post past without a comment ...

But he would have liked the programme I heard , maybe ,,,

However , being here now , , , when in Rome kinda thing kicks in , especially as I am a foreigner ,,.....
So,, you keep wandering around your 250 experments in .....is this good or do I like it ...sort of stuff ....

and we stay with our 5 ....thank god we got rid of the crap years ago ....each one of these is better than (mathimatically) 60 scotch whiskeys ,,,,,,, all the work was done for you by our ancestors , no need to thank us ....enjoy .....

(Ron ..is gonna have a real good go at me when I get there ...maybe I bring a bottle to placate him ...

hmm

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 25 2012 2:44:04

estebanana

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

Buy the bottle now so it will be 40 or 50 years old by then.

Also Kiko you get style points for drunk posting.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 25 2012 2:51:50

El Kiko

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to estebanana)

strange .. I was told ... by a professional ..... that whiskey ages up to 10 years or so...but after that there is small, or no change anymore ....

so the 15 or 25 years is a bit of a publicity thing ,,,chemically 5 or 10 years is good
but 15 or 25 years is not worth he money .....(unlike wine, or port )

I was told .....

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 25 2012 2:56:14

edguerin

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to El Kiko)

You mean there's a difference between water and whiskey ?

As far as Poitin is concerned there's wonderful song about Jonny Jump Up, an extra strong cider, but it could apply to Poitin as well ...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 25 2012 8:48:56

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

Great reads and info!
Didn't actually bother to do some research, but seeing the enormous amounts of products its worthwile doin so.

And indeed extra style points for drunk posts!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 25 2012 9:12:11

El Kiko

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

How doyous all know i was drunk when a was writiung akll that stufff....

asaaa your all b me best mates ....g,night .... hic

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 25 2012 11:42:46

Leñador

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RE: Whiskey (in reply to kozz)

This thread inspired me so last night I paid a little extra at the pub(yes we have those in LA) and got the Jameson 12 year reserve. It was great, even for sipping, that now may be my hands down favorite, ill have try it a couple more times to be sure

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