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Brendan

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Damaged buttons 

Calling luthiers,

I've somehow managed to crack two of my tuning buttons. I don't want to replace the whole gear machinery, but I understand that the buttons are not standard sizes between manufacturers. Is there any hope of getting buttons to fit?

The guitar is a Juan Salvador, who does not have a website. I emailled the dealer but so far have not had the courtesy of a reply.

All advice gratefully received.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 10 2012 22:57:49
 
estebanana

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

Look at All Parts website and Stew Mac website under tuners. Stew Mac frst.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 10 2012 23:55:41
 
JuanDaBomb

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

Also, don't forget to check Ebay vendors I found some ebony buttons to replace some plastic buttons on one of my guitars through Ebay (from some guy in China). They fit perfectly because they were actually made by the same manufacturer, even though they weren't labeled that way in the seller's ad. It takes a bit of detective work to find out what you have and what will fit it. I'd take one of the tuners off and see if there is a brand name on it somewhere.

EDIT: wooot! you're in luck I think! Those are the same ones that are on my Benito Whoopie guitar. I'll post a photo or 2 a little later, but I already notice the brand emblem on the back of them: Der Jung.

http://www.derjung.com.tw/index.php?lang=en

I'll see if I can help you pinpoint the model a little later. Right now it's coffee time!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2012 0:35:33
 
estebanana

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

Yes The Bomber is right, I checked on Stew Mac and All Parts today, and found nothing similar.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2012 2:04:09
 
JuanDaBomb

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

Ok here is a photo of mine. As you can see, pretty much the same except for the button color



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2012 3:05:16
 
JuanDaBomb

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

IF those are your tuners, then they are these here:

http://www.derjung.com.tw/index.php?option=product&lang=en&task=showinfo&id=18801

The description says you can use a "P" or "A" series button, here:

http://www.derjung.com.tw/index.php?option=product&lang=en&task=showlist&id=18710

I bought mine from this guy here:

http://stores.ebay.com/LueezGuitar/Buttons-/_i.html?_fsub=3565496018&_sid=42458688&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

but you should search all of Ebay.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2012 3:14:03
 
Brendan

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to JuanDaBomb

I am seriously impressed! By the willingness to take time to help a stranger and the speed and accuracy of the detective work. Deep thanks.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2012 7:36:32
 
JuanDaBomb

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

Hey, no problem Brendan. Hope that info helps you out!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2012 19:46:08
 
Shawn Brock

 

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

Well there you go... Juan and Stephen are the man! Well, men, I mean.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 12 2012 23:19:53
 
keith

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

juan hit the button on the head--der jung. i have a pair of them on a cordoba guitar and they work great. you probably can get new tuners for the price of just buttons. the website juan posted is where i found mine. they have aged bronze "hauser type" with black buttons and rollers, "fustero type" and a host of other styles--such as "rubner types". as i recall they have rosewood looking buttons, ebony, snakewood, white buttons, black rollers, etc. etc.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 13 2012 1:18:47
 
Brendan

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

Dear Luthiers,

Now, five years later, I've lost one of the black screws that hold the cogs in place. I only noticed now when changing strings, so it could have dropped out anywhere and I didn't notice because it was all held in place by string-tension.

Are these screws standard, or do I have to get one (or six) from Der Jung?

(See the photo at the top of the post.)

Thanks again.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 13 2017 20:58:25
 
aqualibguitars

 

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

Hello brenden.
u can take off another screw and visit hardware shop for same size
i have just started making tuning keys of my own.
can u let me know the dimension of the screw.
and if possible remove the worm and let me know the dimensions
i can try to send the buttons and the screws.
trying to help as much as i can
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 29 2017 6:44:41
 
Brendan

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to aqualibguitars

Thanks, that's very generous. In the end, the shop where I bought the guitar helped me out, so it's all fine.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 29 2017 8:02:43
 
Brendan

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

More tuning head news! Now, the cog wheel of the D-string tuner has lost a tooth and the frame of the mechanism is starting to buckle away from the headstock:





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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 14 2020 23:03:05
 
Brendan

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

I could buy some new gears and try to fit them, but before I do that, is there likely to be some underlying problem that I can’t see?

Thanks as always,

BL

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 14 2020 23:04:29
 
Stu

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RE: Damaged buttons (in reply to Brendan

Hi Brendan, when did you last lubricate the gears there?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 3 2020 0:19:31
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