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Ruphus
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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to ToddK)
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Had some hooch yesterday first time after a long while. As alc widens tissue cells while nicotine tightens them / the two badly crave for each other, a nip of alc ( however bad a hooch it be, and boy, was that a miserbale dishwater ) seems kind of a litmus test to me. ( So challenging that I neglected a booz invitation in the early period of abstinence, for been convinced then that it would be throwing me behind.) Surprsisingly though, while enjoying the nips and our discussion no longing came up. All in all life is as if I hadn´t been smoking. Only scatteredly a thought creeps back into inner spotlight, reminding me of being a smoker and how there are actually popping up minute quirks that make things look as if you could be lapsing back anytime with a verve of delectation. About a week ago I had another dream in which me had lite up a cigarette and was sucking it away with ecstatic pleasure when suddenly realizing that there was a withdrawal broken; jerking and waking up in relieving innocent reality. Turning around in bed and dropping off again. When coming to thinking of it, it ususally is being a reminder in the way of "Dude, you have quit and for most of the time do not even note it." Going for another cup of tea, or peeling a carrot to niblle on, without even thinking to that other possible place-maker. The major challenge seems to really lie in those first 3 or 4 days. ... and in mean occasional demons flashing up out of nowhere. Nice to hear of your easy breakaway too, guys! :O) Ruphus
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Date Jan. 18 2013 1:47:34
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n85ae
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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to ToddK)
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Uh-huh ... Your still typing a dissertation about not smoking, which means it's on your mind all the time. Just do something else. :) Regards, Jeff quote:
Had some hooch yesterday first time after a long while. As alc widens tissue cells while nicotine tightens them / the two badly crave for each other, a nip of alc ( however bad a hooch it be, and boy, was that a miserbale dishwater ) seems kind of a litmus test to me. ( So challenging that I neglected a booz invitation in the early period of abstinence, for been convinced then that it would be throwing me behind.) Surprsisingly though, while enjoying the nips and our discussion no longing came up. All in all life is as if I hadn´t been smoking. Only scatteredly a thought creeps back into inner spotlight, reminding me of being a smoker and how there are actually popping up minute quirks that make things look as if you could be lapsing back anytime with a verve of delectation. About a week ago I had another dream in which me had lite up a cigarette and was sucking it away with ecstatic pleasure when suddenly realizing that there was a withdrawal broken; jerking and waking up in relieving innocent reality. Turning around in bed and dropping off again. When coming to thinking of it, it ususally is being a reminder in the way of "Dude, you have quit and for most of the time do not even note it." Going for another cup of tea, or peeling a carrot to niblle on, without even thinking to that other possible place-maker. The major challenge seems to really lie in those first 3 or 4 days. ... and in mean occasional demons flashing up out of nowhere. Nice to hear of your easy breakaway too, guys! :O) Ruphus
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Date Jan. 18 2013 5:43:31
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Ruphus
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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus)
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Eight months passed and me is still being abstinent. ( With no exceptions, not even when surrounded with smoking folks - in my house. And not when my old cat died; which was of the hardest moments to behave myself.) KM and Todd, I hope your are being on the brave side too! - The point of physical demand is long surpassed now, but I am still missing it. Every other time, like maybe once per month on average, there out of a sudden comes up such a strong desire, keeping me engaged with fancying the inhaled pleasure for a minute or two before it fades away again. I believe that quitting in the long term must be easier for chain-smokers. That way of consuming is with little pleasure and often enough even tasteless because of the overdose. Thus, once a chain smoker has overcome the physical addiction he should be rather in a position to cut the chord for good. The more you used to smoke with pleasure though, possibly consuming mainly tobacco instead of chemicals, appreciating good rolling and always pushing back in line the next cigarette just to increase the pleasure and the ceremony ... The more you have been consciously relishing, the harder it might be to quit. Like in my case. The physical going off turned out surprisingly easy actually. But I definitly do miss the sensational pleasure of a well rolled cig. Making a bogeyman of it aside: There is little that grants you during breaks like a fine smoke. Especially for a creative mind. Ruphus
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Date May 25 2013 15:27:19
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gj Michelob
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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus)
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I read your post, Ruphus, while having my morning black coffee and an unfliltered Camel [which I smoke -in place of my ordinary fix- when I feel particularly cool].... And I feel embarrassed and silly. It is indeed, as you mention, that unique sense of detachment from the world that a cigarette-break gives us that makes it nearly impossible to forfeit. Yet, it may lead to a premature and more permanent break from the world than we bargain for when we light-up. I mentioned attending the Rolling Stones concert a few weeks ago, and I was stunned that good ol' [70 yrs] Keith Ruchards smoked contemptuously on stage!! Of course, witnessing that comforts our vice but after all it is why and how we started, isn't it? Bravo, Ruphus, keep clear of Stogs they are now socially unacceptable and incontrovertibly dangerous. -hence the query, why can't I quit?
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Date May 25 2013 16:22:06
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Richard Jernigan
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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to gj Michelob)
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I'm a very lucky person. It was easy for me to quit cigarettes nearly fifty years ago, so you should take this with a grain of salt. I have a policy of befriending my vices. Once or twice a month I put a small steak on the charcoal grill. When it is done just so, I eat it with a nice salad, maybe half a baked potato and one glass of red wine. The rest of the time it's vegetarian breakfast and lunch, maybe a small piece of chicken or fish with supper. For a few years when I lived in the tropics I would start each weekend by sitting at a beach shack after supper on Friday, watching the sun set over the glorious blue Pacific, puffing on a good cigar and sipping a glass of cognac. Maybe once a month friends from the more populous island at the south end of the atoll would fly up and join me. After one cigar and 125 milliliters of cognac, I didn't want any more of either one. Six days a week I would swim at least a kilometer, and on essentially every weekend my buddies and I would go scuba diving. There were no private cars on the island. I rode my bicycle back and forth to work, and back and forth to lunch, a couple of miles each way. Ten and a half months of the year, at least a mile would be into the teeth of a 12 to 18 knot trade wind. You would breathe hard and sweat, no matter how fit you were. We were given an annual physical examination to certify that we were fit to climb towers: 200-foot microwave towers, 150-foot antenna towers, etc. Part of the exam was a spirometer test to determine lung capacity. The first time the chief medical officer looked at my test he mused, "Hmm, 54 years old, lung capacity of a 25-year old...I bet you never smoked." "I started when I was 16, smoked a pack a day when I was 28. I'm still a regular smoker." "????" "One cigar a week." "Exercise?" I reported. "Keep up the cigars. They seem to be good for you," the doc pretended to advise, with an ironic smile. These days I may go a month or six weeks without a cigar, but when I want one, I have a stash of a few Cuban Montecristos I brought back from my last foray to Southeast Asia. However, ten years after she graciously quit at my request, my ex-wife still craved a cigarette. Different strokes for different smokers. RNJ
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Date May 25 2013 18:06:18
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BarkellWH
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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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In the 1960s it was still fashionable to smoke a pipe I never took up smoking of any form--cigarettes, cigars, or pipes--even as a teenager when one is most vulnerable. Nevertheless, I have always thought that pipe tobacco generally had a much richer and nicer aroma than either cigarettes or cigars. As a consequence, while I didn't smoke, I did not mind being around someone who smoked a pipe. Cheers, Bill
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Date May 26 2013 14:44:03
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BarkellWH
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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Arash)
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Bad news: nearly all flamencos smoke. You're right, Arash, and, unfortunately, look at those who have died of lung cancer--Cameron, Ramon de Algeciras, and no doubt many others. Cheers, Bill
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And the end of the fight is a tombstone white, With the name of the late deceased, And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here, Who tried to hustle the East." --Rudyard Kipling
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Date May 26 2013 17:13:28
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