RE: Building Guitar Number 100.

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TANúñez

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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¡¡¡Number 100 Finished!!!

Beautiful work Anders. I like how you matched the top purfling with the rosette.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 11:52:53

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Here you have a short Fandango de Huelva on the guitar.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 16:07:07

Leñador

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Que compas! You swing FDH perfectly and the guitar sounds great, congrats! I'm nicking those falsetas BTW

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Ruphus

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to Jim Kirby)

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ORIGINAL: Jim Kirby

Beveling as Ruphus shows involves inserting a substantial block of wood in place of the linings and then carving appropriately. The most recent video by Robbie O'Brien (check his forum or OLF) shows how this is done. I think they work well on steel strings where weight isn't an issue. You'd have to be very careful on a classical or flamenco guitar, I think.

The second of the two pics I posted shows the back of a classical guitar or flamenca, made by the man who introduced this kind of bevel.
His guitars are described as light weight, but I don´t know whether that verdict will include bevelled ones.

However, I assume that keeping the bevel at structural requirements / taking out unneeded mass, shouldn´t ad much of weight.

Now, Laskin´s beautiful bevels look pitch black like ebony ... dunno.

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Too bad I have no VPN anymore / would really like to check out the video. :O(

Ruphus

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 17:46:46

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to Leñador)

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I'm nicking those falsetas BTW

You´re welcome. The first is a trad. intro and falseta. The singers like this kind of things. The second is from a foro member from Sweden, Duende. People here in Huelva loves it. There are not so many c major falsetas around which are good and easy to play

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 17:49:57

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Congrats Anders! Looks beautiful and sounds very impressive.

Ruphus, have you tried a guitar with an armrest bevel? I made a cedar top negra with one as an order. I won't spam this thread with pictures but you can find them on my blog. The guitar sounded good but some of the things the guy asked for were a little outside my comfort zone.
In particular I would not build an armrest bevel again. I find that a regular guitar shape is more comfortable. For a flamenco guitar it has the effect of lowering your arm and making it difficult to play close to the bridge comfortably. If anything I would build on an external rest.

The rounding of the bindings is a little bit of personal preference. In general I round mine more than Anders but I'm sure any luthier could go either way depending on request. I actually know one classical player who prefers to have them rounded off quite a bit everywhere except on the soundboard treble side of the lower bout, so the guitar won't slip on his leg

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 18:10:26

Leñador

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

It's hard for me to find falsetas that sound really cool and are accessible for me, those are great, thanks!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 18:25:34

Ruphus

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Hi Andy,

I just went to your website ( first time), but couldn´t find the bevel example.

You are saying something there.
Indeed, have I not yet played a bevelled specimen, and standard guitars already provide a bit too little distance from bout to soundhole-bridge area. Lowering further shouldn´t be ergonomically optimal, as you point out.

- So how could my ideal guitar be looking like; bevelled, yet not with extra large body in the same time. > scratch, scratch<

Elevating arm rests could thus indeed be most practical.
I have an arm rest with suction cubs somewhere. Only problem you need a corresponding guitar case ( either with a ward for the arm rest, or an oversized one, which I not really keenly do use for that one guitar ). Further, that rest isn´t shaped optimally, with just a rounder edge instead of a nice flat section.

Having just eyed your creations I must say that their esthetics from far don´t floor me ( on first glance, which could change easily live ), but your guitars sound characteristics ( and your playing style, besides!) do really hit a nerve with me.
And what I hope is:
# That you will be sticking to building for quite a while, yet.
# Not rocket in pricing before I might grab me one.

I really admire how you home-grown guys excel.

Ruphus

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 18:53:12

estebanana

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Whoa, that is a good one Anders. Nice sound.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 19:20:22

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to Ruphus)

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I just went to your website ( first time), but couldn´t find the bevel example.

It's not on my website, it's on my blog (3rd link below my sig).
Some more recent pictures of guitars on there too. Thanks for the complement. I will keep building as long as I can and shouldn't be raising my prices anytime soon...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 19:56:42

Ruphus

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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ORIGINAL: deteresa1

It's not on my website, it's on my blog (3rd link below my sig).

Just tried. It is blocked from here. - Just like 5 mio other URLs.

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Ruphus

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 20:11:09

mrMagenta

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

.. sheer elegance. Nothing is overstated, everything about it speaks of wood, music and honest, good workmanship. Wish I could buy it :-|

The only little detail that I miss is the pointy head shape, but I guess with the new shape perhaps people would be comfortable sitting to the left of me sometimes

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 20:12:12

r0bbie

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Andres,

I have been away from this site for a couple of months and when I started reading this topic I was shocked to read you lost your wife, and I want to let let you know I am really sorry for your loss. It is good to see you go on after such a difficult time and build another guitar.

I think its a verry nice guitar and it sound great but the thing that amazes the most is the ease you play the guitar. Man, your getting better by the day.

Regards,
Rob.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 23 2012 22:37:25

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Robbie, thats absurd. I havent played the guitar more than a total of a few hours the last 8 month, so I actually feel I´m getting worse and I cant remember stuff anymore. But there´s a point:
Now that I basically dont play, I dont have this idea that I have to play well, so I relax more and thats where things are often working the best.
Another thing is that this FdH is pretty easy stuff.

Just one more thing.
The guitar is sold. BUT I can build more and my waiting list is (to) short.

And finally, why not start a new thread with this armrest thing its interesting and deserves its own thread.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 24 2012 7:42:51

Ruphus

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

I have been feeling guilty for going astray in this thread and appreciate your pragmatic and friendly response, Anders.

Will open a thread as you recommend, - but think it will rouse only little interest as only the least might have experience with thelike features.

Ruphus

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 24 2012 8:52:08

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Ruphus, As You might have noticed, on this foro, everything can be interesting, so your armrest is no difference. I find it interesting.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 24 2012 15:22:38

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

And a litlle extra video:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 24 2012 15:41:24

estebanana

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

That sounds meaty and elegant at the same time.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 27 2012 21:34:37

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Its still very young and the trebles will mature and get fuller. The bass is big and very fast with a nice flamenco decay. It doesnt make the overall sound muddy.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 28 2012 8:16:43

estebanana

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

By meaty I hope you did not think I meant muddy. When we say meaty in English it means delicious basically. Unless you are a Vegan, then it is a bad thing to say.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 29 2012 18:40:03

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

I took your use of the word 'meaty' as something possitive. I´m not a vegetarian , but I prefer tofu to meat, so maybe we could call that sound ´tofy´or 'tofuy'.
Or maybe say that the ting has balls. Thats very spanish. Ésa guitarra tiene cojones.....

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 30 2012 8:12:49

kintla

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Anders,
The guitar sounds great, but I am also impressed with your playing. Your left hand is doing some complicated things for not practicing much.
Sherman

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 30 2012 15:50:52

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Thanks Sherman.
Things are that that left hand did some way more complicated things in the past and therefor what I play here, still seems pretty easy.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 31 2012 15:53:19

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Building Guitar Number 100. (in reply to TANúñez)

Just to finish the story.
The guitar is now in its new home in Reno, Nevada, USA.

After a bit of struggling with the US authorities and the Lacey act.

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