RE: Navarro Conde!

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BarkellWH

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to Kalo)

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I can't imagine a 1923 Santos Hernandez guitar! "I am not worthy to play"

Nor was I, Kalo, but who would pass up the opportunity?

Cheers,

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 18 2012 22:08:31

Shawn Brock

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to Kalo)

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ORIGINAL: Kalo

"Let the Bidding Begin"

All I can say his starting bid is higher than what I paid! And, yes, it is the same Navarro Conde..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Conde-Hermanos-Style-Flamenco-Blanca-Guitar-Custom-Built-by-Francisco-Navarro-/350581953600?pt=Guitar&hash=item51a0501440

He received the guitar this morning and it's already up on ebay...

Well, it's out of my hands and hopefully someone will like..

Kalo

Interesting... I have seen the price on EBay go from $1200, to $1000, and now to $895. I had said over in the classifieds section that Ron would sell it a lot cheaper off of EBay. It saves him money not going through EBay...

I would say if someone wants it, call him up and offer him $600 and he may take it. He would for sure take $800 at most after shipping, but I bet he would take a lot less... $650 after shipping, or $700 after shipping. Now that he's gotten it back, he probably wants to move it more than ever...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 18 2012 23:32:20

Kalo

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to BarkellWH)

Hey Shawn,

He listed it for $1049.00 and I got it for $800.00

I am a girl, so, I am sure he wasn't going to come down any lower for me.

I asked him if he listed high because it looked like a Conde even though it was a Student Custom Flamenco, he replied well, "it's not just a student flamenco, it's in between a Student and Concert Navarro Flamenco! Fransico put his personal touch on the bracing...

From what I saw it's a "pimped" out student flamenco guitar that sounds NICE and looks like a Conde

If someone wants it, I highly doubt he'll come down $650.00!

Look at the bid! It's starts at $895.00! That means either you bid the same amount or bid higher!

I would be surprised if he lets it go for $650.00!

He won't even let his regular Student Blanca Flamenco go for less than $700.00

Oh, by the way it's NOT Ron Hudson who is selling it.. ..

This Seller got it from Ron Hudson at Memorial Music! Ron was stocked iwth plenty guitars and didn't want to have a custom on his hand....

Kalo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 18 2012 23:58:57

keith

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to BarkellWH)

a pimped out student guitar? did the fretboard go up and down with a push of a button? were there neon lights inside of the guitar? did the tuners have spinning gears?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2012 2:39:41

Kalo

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to BarkellWH)

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a pimped out student guitar? did the fretboard go up and down with a push of a button? were there neon lights inside of the guitar? did the tuners have spinning gears?

As a matter of fact yes

Well, maybe, I shouldn't of used the word "pimped out", however there isn't many if any Navarro Studnet Flamenco Guitar's that have a headstock, bracing and color that looks like a Conde..

Kalo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2012 2:54:56

Shawn Brock

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From: Louisville KY

RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to Kalo)

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ORIGINAL: Kalo

Oh, by the way it's NOT Ron Hudson who is selling it.. ..

This Seller got it from Ron Hudson at Memorial Music! Ron was stocked iwth plenty guitars and didn't want to have a custom on his hand....

Kalo

Oh, I see... I thought that you had said you bought it from Ron. I guess that would or could still be the case, and Ron just had you send it to one of his dealers, who wouldn't let it go for such a low price.

Its still a hell of a lot of guitar for the money, and $1000 would be a fare price to me, so at the starting bid its a great deal. If not for that damn rosewood fretboard I may would even jump in on it!!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2012 3:43:08

Kalo

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to BarkellWH)

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Oh, I see... I thought that you had said you bought it from Ron. I guess that would or could still be the case, and Ron just had you send it to one of his dealers, who wouldn't let it go for such a low price.

Nope, Ron, was stuck with the guitar when the buyer walked away from it!

Ron, gave the Navarro Conde to another Seller!

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Its still a hell of a lot of guitar for the money, and $1000 would be a fare price to me, so at the starting bid its a great deal. If not for that damn rosewood fretboard I may would even jump in on it!!!

Well, being that I had it in my hands! It is a beautiful "Conde look a like" but still sounds like a Student Flamenco Guitar.. I will say that it resonates nicely!!!

I don't know if it is worth $1000 and up!

As I was reading the description the Seller now says that Fransico Navarro made it himself..

Well, again, I had the guitar in my HANDS and it is not made by Franisco as there was no signature inside the label..

I was told that Marlan (his son) made it, but, Franisco fine tuned the bracing...
Whatever that means?

Kalo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2012 16:08:24

estebanana

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to BarkellWH)

I think we should alert Sotheby's and Christies now that the cat is out of the bag.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2012 20:25:48

estebanana

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to estebanana)

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, Franisco fine tuned the bracing...
Whatever that means?

It means a whole lot of B.S. is flying around the room.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2012 20:27:20

Kalo

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to BarkellWH)

I KNOW for a fact that this is a STUDENT flamenco guitar.

Navarro didn't make it himself nor did he fine tune the bracing..

Now he is stating THAT FRANSICO NAVARRO MADE the guitar..,

I am predicting that he will have NO buyers! He'll have no choice then to lower his pricing to STUDENT price..

I am not saying the Seller isn't a nice person, but, he's not exactly being honest to the buyer!

Now he starts the bidding at $895.00?? That's a joke!

The person who originally ordered this guitar PAID $895.00 with PEGS and shipping. Without pegs the guitar should be lower!

The price for this guitar should be $759.00 at tops. That is what I paid for my Student Flamenco TWO years ago...plus shipping...

Kalo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2012 20:38:22

keith

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to BarkellWH)

fine tuning of the braces? oh i better be good here and not mention that four letter word that begins with s and ends with t

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2012 20:56:44

C. Vega

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to keith)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2012 21:54:07

estebanana

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to BarkellWH)

Too much salt, you'll have a stroke.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2012 22:15:44

Kalo

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to BarkellWH)

Well, he does have another student blanca flamenco guitar on Ebay right now that he list for $749.00 and on that bid it says:

$749.00 or best offer...

I hear he is willing to let it go for $700.00...

I realize now that I got caught up on the Conde look and was fooled by the CONDE BRACING jargon and that FRANSICO himself graced it by fine tuning the brace

It was hard for me to admit it...

If any beginner/intermediate player is interested in this Navarro just beware that this Seller is trying make this STUDENT flamenco guitar more than what it is! I guess this justfies him jacking the price up!

Don't do what I did or you'll end up spending an extra $266.65 for stocking fee and sending it back.

Kalo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2012 22:17:28

estebanana

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to Alonte)

I just got some beers at the store.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 18 2013 4:01:54

Ricardo

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to estebanana)

Christ!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 18 2013 5:43:33

tijeretamiel

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to estebanana)

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

I just got some beers at the store.

What kind?

A statement like that cannot be left without explanation.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 18 2013 7:21:09

estebanana

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to BarkellWH)

Kirin, I drink a lot of Kirin. If I'm lucky I get Yebisu Kuro, ( Ebisu Dark) Today Kirin.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 18 2013 13:09:01

Tom Blackshear

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RE: Navarro Conde! (in reply to C. Vega)

This is somewhat amusing but let's be fair here, Marlon builds a good guitar. I just had the opportunity to play one of his latest flamencos with the Conde design and it was a very good instrument. A friend of mine from Houston brought it over awhile back. The workmanship and finish was very good and I wish I could collaborate with him to build a 1955 Nino Ricardo flamenco style Sobrinos de Esteso.

I bet it would be a hot seller.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 18 2013 22:28:59