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estebanana

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Rant on Spain bailout

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Report Abuse | Date Jun. 13 2012 22:55:45

BarkellWH

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to estebanana)

All of you Brits on the Foro, whatever you may think of your governments over the past ten years, should be bloody glad that they kept the pound sterling and refused to join the Eurozone. The Eurozone was doomed the minute it expanded to include too many countries with disparate economies, different approaches to fiscal and labor discipline, and gamesmanship regarding tax evasion. In my opinion, you can be proud of both the Queen's diamond jubilee and the pound sterling. Three cheers for both!

Cheers,

Bill

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Report Abuse | Date Jun. 14 2012 0:05:32

XXX

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to estebanana)

The politician is an interesting species. It can talk, but it doesnt say anything.
These parliamentary discussions are just show, as shown by the brainless, pointless example above..
But its really funny how the british pronounce "over"

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Report Abuse | Date Jun. 14 2012 17:26:27

Ron.M

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to XXX)

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But its really funny how the british pronounce "over"

Hi Deniz,

You mean ENGLISH!

Every single vowel that guy pronounces is TOTALLY different to Scottish dialect.

English people pronounce vowels as diphthongs or gliding vowels....ie the vowel begins with a certain sound and ends with a different one.

eg Home = H (AH- OO- OW) M

Scottish isn't like that. The vowel remains more or less the same throughout, as does Spanish.

"OVER" in English (to me) sounds like (AH- OO- OW) V (A) no sounded final "R"

"OVER" in Scottish O V E R (plain vowel + sounded final"R")

American, Canadian, Australian, South African etc English also use forms of gliding vowels which will change from region to region, but not in Scottish.

But I get what you mean.
When non UK folk think "British" they generally think "South East England".

Anyway..
This is totally boring....
I don't know why I wrote it.

AH DINNA KEN WHY AH RR O-O TE THISS...AHM MIBBY JIS MAD?

cheers,

Ron

Report Abuse | Date Jun. 14 2012 18:33:48

silddx

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to estebanana)

Don't ever think Farage represents the British. He's a right wing, anti-EU, arse. Basically the voice of our most popular rag of lies and spin, the Daily Mail, the readers of whom are generally lazy thinkers duped into thinking everything in its appalling editorial is correct and based on fact.

Report Abuse | Date Jun. 14 2012 19:00:49

Graham_B

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to estebanana)

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You mean ENGLISH!

You mean SOME English

quote:

Don't ever think Farage represents the British.

He is democratically elected and represents South East England as an MEP.

Report Abuse | Date Jun. 14 2012 19:06:16

silddx

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to Graham_B)

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quote:

Don't ever think Farage represents the British.

He is democratically elected and represents South East England as an MEP.

:) I know. So was Blair when he found those WMDs in Iraq ;)

Report Abuse | Date Jun. 14 2012 19:40:41

hamia

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to silddx)

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ORIGINAL: silddx

Don't ever think Farage represents the British. He's a right wing, anti-EU, arse. Basically the voice of our most popular rag of lies and spin, the Daily Mail, the readers of whom are generally lazy thinkers duped into thinking everything in its appalling editorial is correct and based on fact.

I'm not sure you're right. He seems like a man in full command of the facts.

The last thing we want to do is get mixed up with countries like Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal. Their economies are rubbish, tax evasion and corruption are everywhere, and their police/justice systems haven't made much progress over the past 600 years (eg the missing McCan girl in Portugal, the ridiculous case against Knox in Italy, etc).

A British guy got stuck up a cliff in Greece a day or two ago before falling to his death - he was up there for 3 hours and the Greeks couldn't even manage to get a rope!

Report Abuse | Date Jun. 14 2012 21:18:19

estebanana

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to estebanana)

I don't know who he is, but when he said Italy will have to borrow at 8% to have enough money to bailout Spain. Spain will get the bailout at 3% causing Italy to go further into debt eventually leading to Italy needing a bailout.

The obsurdity of that was worthy of a rant and he delivered. A political stand up comedian.

It's also quite clear that he is fringie, on the fringe.

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Report Abuse | Date Jun. 15 2012 0:35:17

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to estebanana)

Seen from the other side, What this Farage guy sais about the Spanish president, Mariano Rajoy, is unfortunately 100% true.
Rajoy has been trying to cover up and not telling the truth ever since he entered half a year ago. Just lies, lies and more lies....

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Report Abuse | Date Jun. 15 2012 7:54:17

Ruphus

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to BarkellWH)

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ORIGINAL: BarkellWH

All of you Brits on the Foro, whatever you may think of your governments over the past ten years, should be bloody glad that they kept the pound sterling and refused to join the Eurozone. The Eurozone was doomed the minute it expanded to include too many countries with disparate economies, different approaches to fiscal and labor discipline, and gamesmanship regarding tax evasion.

Agreed.

Just that I think it quite worth to omitt the common impressions as if such actions were coincidental, mistakes, missed out management etc. of administration that only failed while intending to act in the interest of the people.

The actual characteristics behind misconducts like with the introduction of the Euro, become evident at the latest when there is regard of what happened for instance with the hologram stamps during the preparation of the new currency release.

One of two hologram stamps that were transported in a guarded plane of the German Bundeswehr just disappeared.
And neither were the stamps newly edited to prevent misuse, nor was the disappearing ever investigated.

Since then the inflation of the European currency must be partially based on heaps of counterfeit money that comes in just like original.

This being just one of the hints on the criminal energy behind official spectacles.
If looking into further aspects, like who bought up real estate, production plants or infra structure beforehand in coming EU member states, or how Brussel is being managed anyway, the actual aims behind official outlay will be just obvious.

There is no mistaking on such level; only coups.

Ruphus

Report Abuse | Date Jun. 15 2012 12:16:41

Richard Jernigan

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to Ron.M)

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You mean ENGLISH!

Every single vowel that guy pronounces is TOTALLY different to Scottish dialect.

English people pronounce vowels as diphthongs or gliding vowels....

Just got to London from the wilds of Norfolk--pronounced "Nawfick" by the experts, as nearly as I can tell.

The waitress at breakfast had to pronounce the word "toast" three times for me to begin to suspect what she was talking about. It sounded more like "taste" to these Texan ears. I commented, "The vowel shift continues."

RNJ

Report Abuse | Date Jun. 16 2012 11:40:43

Escribano

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to Richard Jernigan)

Americans asking for a bottle of "wadda" always catches me out.

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Report Abuse | Date Jun. 16 2012 11:51:51

Richard Jernigan

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RE: Rant on Spain bailout (in reply to Escribano)

I worked in England a fair amount in the late 1970s and 1980s. Our company had a few contracts with the British government. At the first meeting in 1975 I was the new guy, accompanying my boss. He had told me he planned for me to work into his role. During a discussion, I sat back and formulated a scintillating remark, giving the definitive answer to a technical problem. Soon enough my opportunity came, and I uttered my gem. No one understood a word I said, so I was ignored.

I got right to work experimenting and figuring out what went wrong. Fairly quickly I learned it was the American habit of swallowing consonants and neutralizing vowels. I kept on speaking "American" but with clarified vowels and crisp consonants. Then I was able to fulfill my boss's expectation.

You don't have to say "waw-tah" to be understood, just say "wah-ter" clearly.

RNJ

Report Abuse | Date Jun. 18 2012 23:07:59