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JBASHORUN

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TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS

Guys, I understand this may be purely subjective, but I was wondering if there was any agreement amongst forum members which were the top 5 best Flamenco albums ever. Personally, I am mainly interested in the solo guitar albums, but I see no reason why it can't include ALL Flamenco albums.
There must be THOUSANDS of albums out there, but obviously some will be better than others. I'm not asking for everyone to agree with eachother, but if there is at least some similarity in opinion, it will help me a lot to decide which CDs to buy.

Or failing that, maybe there is some concensus about the top 5 Flamenco guitarists?

Thanks again,

James

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2005 18:17:30

duende

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

hm.for me it´s this for the moment. And im only going to put guitar albums in the list.
It would be impossible for me to make a top 5 list of all flamenco albums i´ve heard.
So this is guitar albums that has made a big impression on me.

1. Sirocco . PdL
2. Fabolus flamenco. paco Peña. (Im not sure this is the correct name of the cd.)
3. La fabulosa guitarra de Paco de lucia
4. paseo de los castaños. Tomatito
5. Rey del Flamenco Sabicas. (maybe thats not the name of the album)

Now i could go on and on and on. There so much left out of this list!!

Niño ricardo, Gerardo nuñez, Vicente. etc etc etc

Henrik

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2005 18:55:02

ToddK

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Flamenco Puro Sabicas
El Duende Flamenco PDL
Sirroco PDL
Barrio Negro Tomatito
Virtuissimo Serranito

And about a thousand others of course. :)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2005 19:15:14

Thomas Whiteley

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

James;

I find it difficult to name five but my favorite is Queen of the Gypsies" with Carmen Amaya and Sabicas. Many call it the best flamenco recording made and I have to agree.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2005 23:08:50

aloysius

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

1. De mi corazon al aire - Vicente Amigo
2. Bola - Agustin Carbonell (Originally released under the title "Carmen")
3. Siroco - PDL
4. Jucal - Gerardo Nunez
5. Rosas del amor - Tomatito

If the list could be one longer I would definately put Sanlucar's "Tauromagia" in there.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 26 2005 1:34:06

Florian

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Top 5 albums that have left an impression of me, the not the best but for some reason they stick in my head the most and i have gonne back to them the most.

Vicente Ciudad de Las Ideas <---- I think this album fas revolutionary for Vicente
Gerardo Nunez Salome <---- this one really really touched me and inspired me
Carlos Pinana POLOSANTO <---- I love the voice of Curro Piñana in this album
El Pele & Vicente Canto <---- very creative accompaning of cante by Vicente
DUQUENDE Samaruco <----- My favourite Paco stuff

but tomarow my list be totaly different ;-)
greate post btw

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 26 2005 7:27:05

JBASHORUN

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to Florian)

Thanks everyone, some very helpful information. I will do my best to check out the albums that you have suggested. One that was mentioned several times was Paco De Lucia's "Sirroco", so I think this will be my first to buy.

Gracias,

James

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 26 2005 12:17:08

Fergusito

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

My favourite is
Vicente - Vivencias Imaginadas - (just coz I've heard a million times and still like it)
Manolo Sanlucar - Turomagia (coz it's magic)
after that anything but I lean more to the cante rather than guitar so I think
Camaron - Potro de rabia y miel (or anything esle for that matter)
Capullo de Jerez - Este soy yo (has to be heard)
Martires de compas - anything by them (coz there so cool) - Flamenco Billy

Maybe not a very decicive list just off the top of my head.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 26 2005 16:49:36

el ted

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Almoraima - PDL
Chano Lobato and Paco del Gastor live
Ace of Spades by Motorhead
Anything by Camaron de la isla.
Elephant by The White Stripes

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2005 15:53:05

Doitsujin

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Top 5 best ever???

T dont know the future. So its impossible to know. (^-^)
But at the moment I hear Tomatitos CDs (Spain,aguadulce,.. and Nino Josele/the new)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2005 16:22:38

JBASHORUN

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to el ted)

quote:

Almoraima - PDL
Chano Lobato and Paco del Gastor live
Ace of Spades by Motorhead
Anything by Camaron de la isla.
Elephant by The White Stripes

"I'm gonna fight 'em off... a 7 nation army couldn't hold me back!!!"- good stuff, but not quite Flamenco!

But if you ever decide to do Flamenco version of a White Stripes song, do let me know, as it sounds interesting.

I think I have the "No Remorse" Motorhead compilation around here too somewhere...

Cheers,

James

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2005 16:41:23

Miguel de Maria

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Hmmm... well, Almoraima is AWESOME. By Paco. I don't see how Siroco beats that one out. And Tauromagia by Manolo Sanlucar is definitely one of the greatest ever.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2005 22:38:45

Ricardo

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

1. Tauromagia-Manolo Sanlucar
2. Fantasia Flamenca-Paco de Lucia
3. Jucal-Gerardo Nunez
4. Vivencias Imaginadas-Vicente Amigo
5. Paseo de los Castanos-Tomatito

I would actually put Paco's whole discography at no. 2 with Fantasia at the top, but figured you wanted variety. I don't like ALL of Sanlucar's work, but Tauromagia is an amazing album, always top of my list. Even though these are my favorites, the two albums I can't get enough of lately are from last year, Cositas Buenas and Andando del Tiempo. Not the BEST of either artist, but I just can't stop listening to these two.

My cante list would be separate. I can't mix up the two lists for some reason.

1. Paquera-anything
2. Maria Vargas w/ Paco de lucia
3. Indio Gitano w/ Nunez
4. Luis el Zambo -Gloria Bendita
5. Camaron-Nuestro

When you get into cante, you should get the Flamenco movie or CD by Saura. A great mix of different style singers.

Ricardo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 29 2005 6:56:34

de Almeida

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

El Camarón de la Isla con la Colaboración Especial de Paco de Lucía (1969)
El Camarón de la Isla con Tomatito - Flamenco Vivo
El Camarón de la Isla con Paco de Lucía y Tomatito - Como el Agua
El Camarón de la Isla y Tomatito - La Leyenda del Tiempo
Gerardo Nunez - El Gallo Azul
Gerardo Nunez - Jucal (The Spanish version - the english one is missing some songs!)
Gerardo Nunez - Calima
Moraito Chico - Morao, Morao
Pedro Bacan - Alurican
Quique Paredes - De Maera

sorry.. I know that's 10 albums, but I really couldn't leave any out.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 30 2005 7:19:51

Paleto

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

1) El Pele & Vicente Amigo - Poeta de esquinas blandas
2) PDL - Almoraima and/or Siroco
3) Vicente Amigo - De mi corazón al aire
4) Gerardo Núñez - Flamencos en nueva york
5) Manolo Sanlucar - Tauromagia
6) El Pele, Isidro Múñoz and Vicente Amigo - La fuente de lo jondo

Unfortunately, 1,3 and 4 are not the best recordings in terms of studio technique, actually, given what was available at time each was recorded (1990, 1991, and 1989) they're lousy. But artistically, each one was a significant recording in my book.

Almoraima and Tauromagia were solid discs both artistically and as studio recordings.

For those interested in gorgeous recordings (though no flamenco yet) check out marecordings.com the guy who started the company says he's interested to do flamenco, but also said it is difficult to meet people. I wish he could meet the right people because all his recordings are done with all musicians in the same space, but done in acoustically adequate environments which give one a sense of space and just right reverb as well as amazing instrumental and/or vocal clarity.

Anthony

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de Almeida

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

ALSO

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Tenshu

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Paco - Luzia
Camaron - Potro de Rabia y Miel
Duquende - Duquende y la guitarra de Tomatito
Paco - Siroco
Camaron - Arte y Majestad
Vicente Amigo - Vivencias imaginadas
Paco - Almoraima
Gerardo Nuñez - Jucal
Camaron - Viviré
Diego el Cigala - Dieguito el Cigala con el Niño Josele en el teatro real
...

etc etc

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 3 2005 7:44:01

Guest

RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

This is some 5 records I've heard a lot and never got tired of. (That's quality for me)

1 Medio siglo de cante flamenco. (4 CD compilation of the big sinegers and their guitarrists)

2 Tauromagia. Manolo Sanlucar.

3. Mi cante y un poema. Estrella Morente. (very powerfull album. Just don't like number 1. The rest is awesome.)

4. Camaron and Paco. All of them, but Canastera and Arte y Majestad gets the most times on the player)

5. Vivencias imaginadas. V. Amigo. (By far his best CD IMHO. Very cool trumpet)

6. La Paquera de Jerez. (What a voice!!!)

In general less and less solo guitar and more and more cante.

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el ted

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

How could I forget La Chunga with Juan Serrano! Silly me!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 3 2005 8:52:26

JBASHORUN

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to Guest)

Thanks for your comments everyone. I will be looking into these CDs, and trying to buy many of them when my budget permits.

Anders, I have to confess that I am the complete opposite, and prefer more solo guitar and less cante!

However, I was lucky enough to get to see Estrella Morente perform many of the songs from that album live recently, and have to confess, it was very entertaining!

Cheers,

James

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 3 2005 16:44:56

Mark2

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

1. Sabicas "flamenco puro"
2. PdL "Fuente y Caudal"
3. VA -first record
4. Losadas "?"
5. Nino Migel "Grand Figures etc"
6. Canizares-first record
7. Bola-first record

oh, that's more than five-it's like potato chips-you can't stop eating

Cante -
Bulerias de Oro!!!
All the Camaron/PdL stuff
Two cries for freedom-by the two guys from jail.

Have to mention PdL live at the Teatro Real-wow what a performance-unequaled in chops, musical quality, and sheer talent.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 3 2005 17:15:30

de Almeida

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

oh yeah... the soundtrack to Carlos Saura's Flamenco

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 11 2005 22:18:58

Francisco

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Just went to local music (largest music and video entertainment 'superstore'), and found not a single CD you guys mentioned. : ( What they did have was some Gipsy Kings, Ottmar Liebert, and a couple of other names I didn't recognize all found in the 'World Music' section! Oh well. Good thread.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 13 2005 4:19:51

Florian

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Oh you dont live in Spain ? !! :-)

In that case you have to pay 60 bucs for each cd and wait 1month to get it :)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 13 2005 6:17:57

GURMEETSG

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

where can I purchase most of these CDs from? I live UK London

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 22 2005 8:44:16

Escribano

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to GURMEETSG)

Try www.flamenco-world.com & www.deflamenco.com

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hubby

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

ok here's mine, in no particular order

Flamenco Vivo : Camaron con Tomatito
De Mi Corazon Al Aire : Vicente Amigo
Flamenco : Sabicas
Recital De Flamenco : Manolo Sanlucar
Fabulous Flamenco! : Paco Peña

on the subject of where to buy, the itunes music store has a reasonable selection, i've gotten Sabicas, Paco De Lucia, Vicente Amigo and Paco Pena records from there before.

hubby

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 11 2005 13:38:10

Kate

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to hubby)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hubby
on the subject of where to buy, the itunes music store has a reasonable selection, i've gotten Sabicas, Paco De Lucia, Vicente Amigo and Paco Pena records from there before.

Talking of iTunes Emilio Maya's album Temple is now available there to download.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 11 2005 14:35:57

Ryan002

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RE: TOP 5 BEST EVER FLAMENCO ALBUMS (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Here's a hidden gem for you. It's an album by hEMIsphere (Note the "EMI") called The Story of Flamenco and it's developed from EMI-Odeon Spain archives. 17 tracks that are in many ways a great sampling, since they are all highly characteristic of this genre and its various manifestations.

(Note: Expect Cante. None of the tracks are wholly instrumental.)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 22 2005 17:56:38