Ziricote Negra

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jlneng

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Ziricote Negra

Hello all,
I was shopping wood today and found a great piece of ziricote, good quarter sawn, and probably large enough for 2 B&S sets. I was wondering if anyone has ever seen or played a ziricote Negra and what were your impressions.
Thanks and Happy Easter
John

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JuanDaBomb

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RE: Ziricote Negra (in reply to jlneng)

Me personally, this is my favorite wood species and I would love to own a ziricote flamenca negra. I have no idea how it would sound like either, but man I just really love the pattern of the wood, and especially with some sapwood in it, kind of like this one here:

That's a double top classical, but it's just to see how pretty the wood can be.

Here's my other favorite example:

http://www.sheppardguitars.com/Ziricote%20Back%20%20low%20res.jpg

Do you know if it's pricey compared to, say, Indian rosewood? Got any pics of the piece you bought?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 8 2012 4:23:24

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Ziricote Negra (in reply to jlneng)

I´ve tried a few and didnt like them. Its very heavy and I´m not going to build with it.

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TANúñez

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RE: Ziricote Negra (in reply to jlneng)

I like it very much. I have a few sets. It works well for steel string but I've been afraid to build a nylon with it. Maybe too dense. One day I'll attempt a negra with it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 8 2012 14:26:25

jlneng

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RE: Ziricote Negra (in reply to jlneng)

Yes Anders, I am afraid that I worry about the weight issue as well. That's why I decided not to purchase the wood. Any ideas for an alternate wood for a Negra? I have built 2 with EIR and was happy with the sound but not much visual appeal. Macassar Ebony perhaps, or does that suffer from the same weight problem? I am going to build this one for myself. Also building a blanca for which I have the cypress already.
Happy Easter
John

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 8 2012 16:44:23

jlneng

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RE: Ziricote Negra (in reply to JuanDaBomb)

That's a great looking guitar
Thanks
John

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 8 2012 16:45:23

jlneng

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RE: Ziricote Negra (in reply to TANúñez)

Hi Tom,
I did some research, a cubic foot of ziricote at 12% m.c. is 54 lbs. EIR weighs in at 57 lbs. Brazilian rosewood weighs 52. Either these numbers are screwed up or ziricote is not much heavier than the commonly used rosewoods for a Negra. I got the data from www.wood-database.com. I searched the Internet and saw afew ziricote Negras. They looked great but no mention was made of weight or sound. Any more thought?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 10 2012 2:19:28

TANúñez

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RE: Ziricote Negra (in reply to jlneng)

That's good to know. The one thing that I have heard is that it can be difficult to bend. Seeing how this wood is usually expensive, I would hate to have it crack while bending. When I do get around to using it, I will work it as thin as I can and be very cautious while bending. It is beautiful wood and I really like the figure. Especially with the lighter sap wood running down the center.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 10 2012 3:02:14

TANúñez

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RE: Ziricote Negra (in reply to TANúñez)

Here's a set I will eventually get around to using.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 10 2012 3:25:38

Sean

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RE: Ziricote Negra (in reply to jlneng)

It's definitely heavier than EIR, I used it for a fingerboard and bridge once. I do like the glassy brittleness and ring of the few sets I've handled. The wood is expensive and unless well quartered prone to snapping when bending, I think its nickname is Mexican Crackwood.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 10 2012 4:12:33