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Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ?
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rombsix
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From: Beirut, Lebanon
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 RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for... (in reply to Florian)
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Hello mates,
I went over all of these remates (except for the Manuel Granados one) and put them
into Guitar Pro 5. I also exported the final product into midi and PDF. The file attached
here has been renamed to .jpeg to allow it to be uploaded. Please download it,
rename it to .zip, and extract the contents to view them.
I need your help - some of the remates posted above by Florian or Tortuga
were not in context (meaning they were cut out of a piece or something).
I am working on these because I need to learn many ways of playing compas
and ending with remates or cierres. I will use these remates for my DarsGuitar
course on Fandangos de Huelva. There are about 15 remates that I came
up with (some very simple, some are variations of others, etc.). Please go over
all the remates, and tell me if each one of them stands alone correctly, or whether
any of them are wrong (in terms of the stuff played before them, or the
total compas counts of each, etc.).
Thanks!
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Date Apr. 15 2012 23:44:49
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rombsix
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Joined: Jan. 11 2006
From: Beirut, Lebanon
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RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for... (in reply to Florian)
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wow you put alot of work into this...great man, i will slowly go through some but it will take me a while...i know it would have been smart of me to have marked the name of the track i got the remates from or save the audio example alongside it ...didn't think at the time, will try and find audios for some, vicente should be easy for example since he has only got 1 recorded fandangos
Indeed I put in a lot of work to get this done. I'm not that interested in the
actual context (I know the Vicente stuff came from Mensaje, etc.), but rather
would like to know how to use these remates in the basic, simple context of
chording compas or simple cierres. This is what I tried to do with the stuff
provided by you or Tortuga on this thread, in the hopes of coming up with
stuff that can be used in any situation because it will apply to everything rather
than just a specific passage. Because of this, I think some of the final products
I came up with are not 100% correct, and that is why I need your help...
Cheers!
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Date Apr. 16 2012 7:43:11
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Florian
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From: Adelaide/Australia
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RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for... (in reply to Florian)
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quote:
in the hopes of coming up with
stuff that can be used in any situation because it will apply to everything rather
than just a specific passage....
I understand man, i am not saying for the music but hearing the original context in which was used might help you determine where in the compas he used it, what type of thing did he use it with, i am not by any means an expert on the dos and donts on fandangos except for obvious compas things, all i can say is if it feels right or wrong in comparassement to others i have heard before, but something that might feel right or wrong to me might not feel the same to the next guy
sometimes i am using a particular verdiales falseta at the end of my fandangos...simply cause i like it and cause its the same key and i liked the change in feel, happens to go perfectly with what the dancers are doing
If they can call Algáida (which i love btw) from
La nueva escuela de la guitarra flamenca (Fandangos) i can play a little verdiales in the end of mine (even tho i know its wrong  )
have you heard that track ? sounds like almost anything else but a fandangos, follows none of the characteristics of a fandangos but its called a fandangos, if it wasent written on the cover you would not ever call or think it a fandangos
btw i really like some of the remates, i will use some of them, thank you
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Date Apr. 16 2012 7:53:48
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