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Ruphus
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 RE: multiple guitars (in reply to jshelton5040)
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As can be observed here on the foro, some people easily part with guitars even considerably below value; which I admire.
My personal and weird motto has been: Rather than selling far below value give away as a gift.
The latter, either when coming accross someone I like who is playing on a dud, or someone talented who deserves a better instrument than what he has.
That way six guitars have been given away over the years, and yet there remain 11 axes in my possession ( inlcuding the steelers and a banjo).
Most of them have some interesting story and memento to them, which admittedly makes it a bit hard to see them go ( and which will be why at least my very first and oldest of decent specimens shall stay, eventhough for no practical reason).
Most clearly differ from each other / have their individual strengths. Yet, since the time when I started consciously appreciating depth of tone, other than keeping one as a beater, there´s no reason for retaining a handful of them. And in a way it produces a kind of guilty feeling to have instruments stored that you hardly play anymore, whilst there being folks out there with a passion who only can´t afford a better guitar.
Actually, situated in a country where decent to good guitars are pretty rarely found, I could probably easily find opportunities to sell them without loss, or even at return. But as trading has ever since felt clumsy and strange to me, I´ll wait until next either simpaticos or talented aficionados come in sight, to pass on to them for free, - or maybe this time for small change.
For, until now I had to realize that most of freely presented guitars had been under appreciated and badly beaten up / neglected in a blink.
Obviously, many can either only appreciate when things command accordingly, or trivially assume trash what´s been given away for nada.
Just my 2cents in reflection of indeed too many guitars.
Ruphus
PS:
There exist more basic reason for several guitars than mentioned above.
# Romantic type
# Pristine type
# Beater
Covering classical and flamenco, that could be 6 or at least 5 distinct guitars already.
Just saying.
PS2:
There´s who consider themselves "lo-fi", too.
I know a band who just don´t want better sound ( and tracked another band once who can´t hear the difference - apart of their bass player).
And then there´s one of my cousins who is a multiple-instrument player and fine guitairst.
I used to encourage him to get himself a better specimen; in the times when he was a millionaire.
But he was never even curious to check out; saying to be satisfied as is with his student level guitar.
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Date Jan. 13 2012 11:10:31
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Ruphus
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Joined: Nov. 18 2010
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RE: multiple guitars (in reply to Guest)
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ORIGINAL: Deniz
Surely he didnt make millions by playing guitar, otherwise we would have known him, did he?
No. He got his money from being international biznazman.
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ORIGINAL: rumbaking
Blanca, Negra, Beater guitar (Yamaha or Cordoba)
Why just "Yamaha or Cordoba"?
There a bunch of factory productions that can deliver comparably pretty well.
Like Burguet and others. I once fetched a dirt cheap Hernandez, which despite of being a tad dull, as entry level often is, was exceptionally flamenco sounding.
Next, there is a brand named "Serena" of which I bought two classical guitars, with their transparency and balance performing heads and shoulders above their shelfs standard. ( Killing a whole batch of Yamahas that were labelled up to ~ three times as much.) Should Serena make flamencas too, it would likely turn out to be good choice.
And finally, there are at times exceptional items to be found among your no-name Chinese productions. Last time praised by a specialist on guitar history, who had smiled at me only a couple of years before, when I had mentioned such existing lucky strikes.
With the exception of "Serena"s, which to my limited experience appear to be relatively consitent with their bang for the buck production, I would recommend to dissmiss labels and just frisk through the shelves of mass production, when after an inexpensive guitar.
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Best of all bang for the buck options naturally would be to invest a bit more and go for handmade guitars of the luthiers here like Stephen, Anders, Andy & co. who obviously offer opportunity that hardly any conventional shops choice can match; but that would be way out of the beater category, naturally.
Ruphus
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Date Jan. 13 2012 14:27:34
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Shawn Brock
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Joined: Sep. 19 2011
From: Louisville KY
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RE: multiple guitars (in reply to jshelton5040)
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I think 3 flamenco guitars are a good number if a person is trying to be practical about things. You need a good blanca, a good negra and the ever popular beater... My only problem is when I see a well made guitar going for less than half of what' its worth, I start feeling like I need to rescue it... Then before I know it I have more guitars than what I need. I also have a hard time keeping in mind that my beater guitar is just that, and I'll start to think, oh wow, this guy is selling a $3000 guitar for $1000, for that price I could resale it or turn it into my beater guitar. And maybe I'm wrong, but it seems we have more quality makers now than ever before, and that just makes a lot of us want to try their guitars. Being that its almost impossible to try their guitars without buying one, we are trapped again. I think that those who only play 1 or 2 guitars, are probably better players on their instrument. If a guy has been playing the same guitar for 10 years, he knows what he can get out of it, and he knows how to get it. When playing the same instrument all of the time it almost becomes an extension of your body and there becomes an understanding between player and guitar that isn't realized by those who have a room full of flamenco guitars. I know from experience that having to many guitars isn't good for the player or the instruments. They never get played enough, and the player never brings out the full potential of each guitar. I'm guilty of this charge...
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Date Jan. 13 2012 16:44:43
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BarkellWH
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Joined: Jul. 12 2009
From: Washington, DC
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RE: multiple guitars (in reply to Arash)
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a Conde Negra and a Conde blanca.
thats all you need
I don't want to start an argument or a debate, as I, too, used to think one should possess (and I still possess) a blanca and a negra. I have since evolved back to where I was at the beginning and now think that all I want are blancas. After several years, I have concluded that negras are just classicals with a low setup. In my opinion (and it is only my opinion), nothing beats the percussive, dry sound of a well-played blanca. That, to me, is real flamenco.
As a result, I plan to sell my negra and keep my two remaining blancas. One for my own enjoyment and one for the beach.
Cheers,
Bill
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And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
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Date Jan. 13 2012 17:36:34
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sig
Posts: 296
Joined: Nov. 7 2007
From: Wisconsin
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RE: multiple guitars (in reply to jshelton5040)
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John,
Would it be possible that since you are a luthier, you are better able to "slake" your G.A.S. more easily than the rest of us? I know how I am at the music store or when I get a chance to play a great instrument. Man, my head starts to spin and I get all excited about finding another great sounding/playing guitar. I know my Culpepper is a fine instrument and some days it sounds wonderful then on other days i'm looking for a different sound or feel. Not that I would ever sell it but when G.A.S. hits look out!!
So, can a person have too many guitars? I think not but I can understand how a person would only want to have 1 so they can be more intimate with its feel, pulsation or sound. I can see how someone would want to be a collector, the classical guitar is a beautiful shape, much like a woman, curvy and seductive, just calling us to pick it up and have a strum :) Sorry ladies, no disrespect to those of you reading this but I think the comparison is accurate, at least from my male perspective!
Sig--
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Date Jan. 13 2012 21:31:44
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