RE: Flamenco documentary films

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rombsix

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to britguy)

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Seems like an awfull lot of farting around

It actually is.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 22 2012 20:29:59

britguy

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to orsonw)

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where he shows a variation of the remate phrase from the solea intro that you like maybe it's helpful to you?

Thanks. It is helpfull, but not exactly the same notes as the one in the movie.

Actually, I've been playing different variations of this same basic falseta for many years, but somehow mine does not sound exactly the same as the one in the movie. That's what I was trying to get. . .

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2012 13:52:06

kudo

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to rombsix)

ramzi, I remember trying to play along with this video a long time ago and THE PITCH lies between 2 adjacent frets, i think the pitch was between CAPO 3 AND CAPO 2, (i dont remember the number exactly),so I think when they filmed it, they slowed it down and thus the pitch changed. I can download the audio and adjust the pitch with my guitar and the speed with ASD and upload it here for britguy.
you could have easily downloaded the mp3 from youtube to mp3 downloader (online or software). that was too much work that you did

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2012 15:32:03

Ricardo

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to britguy)

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Actually, I've been playing different variations of this same basic falseta for many years, but somehow mine does not sound exactly the same as the one in the movie. That's what I was trying to get. . .

E----------0--------------0---------------------------0----------------------------
B--------1-------------1---------------------------1------------------------------
G-----2-------------2--------------------------0---------------------0-2-4-2-0-
D-----------------------------0-2-3-2-0--------------------0-2-3-----------------
A-0-----------2-3------------------------3-----------------------------------------
E-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

E-----------0-------1-0---------------------------------------------0------------------
B-------3-----3----------3-1-0-------3-1-0---------------------0-----------------0---
G----2-----------2--------------2------------2-1--------------1----------------1-------
D-3----------------3--------------------------------3---------------------2-3-----------
A-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E---------------------------------------------------------0-------------------------------

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2012 17:56:23

britguy

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to Ricardo)

Muchas gracias, Ricardo. Eso es. . .

Eres muy sympatico. . .

It's simpler than I thought, just need to get the exact timing right. (Always my biggest problem, timing. . . )

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2012 19:41:10

kudo

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to britguy)

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It's simpler than I thought,

I told you

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2012 20:04:25

Ricardo

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to britguy)

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It's simpler than I thought, just need to get the exact timing right. (Always my biggest problem, timing. . . )

Actually the timing will be tricky to match because the player is very liberal or elastic with the compas. I recommend to learn it with metronome using a strict subdivision of 16th note triplets on the descending part from Dminor chord down to E chord (second line of my tab). That means 6 even spaced notes in one beat or tick of the metronome.

Later, in order to match the more elastic performance you can "note cram" with the idea of the beat being expressed always by the thumb stroke notes only. That means all 12 beats are expressed by the thumb (except beat 9 which is that last D note, the 3rd fret on the B string).

Hope that helps.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2012 20:20:37

marduk

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to kudo)

i watched this one today and enjoyed it. I have been watching heaps of flamenco documentary films over the last year or so. I will find some of the ones I have really enjoyed and post them

for the most part, I can only comment on the music though, I am still very early stages of trying to learn to understand spanish

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 30 2012 1:09:52

kudo

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to rombsix)

oops I already posted it in the first page, thanks for doing so again marduk

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 30 2012 2:06:09

marduk

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to kudo)

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oops I already posted it in the first page, thanks for doing so again marduk

whoops.... i actually looked and didnt spot it :P well I enjoyed that one :) and most of the others

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 30 2012 2:22:44

kudo

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to rombsix)

Enrique Morente | A Take Away Show

http://vimeo.com/17889800

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 1 2012 10:57:06

marduk

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to kudo)

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Enrique Morente | A Take Away Show

nice find!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 3:38:35

kudo

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to rombsix)

about camaron

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 18 2012 22:23:12

Elie

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to rombsix)

thank you for keeping this thread alive kudo

you're doing a great job man, thats very nice of you !!

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Brendan

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to rombsix)

Mike Figgis' Flamenco Women

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 20 2012 15:44:15

mrgearbox

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to kudo)

I remember one featuring the Gipsy Kings (Canut and Andre specifically, long ago..) made by: We Have No War Songs. I think this pertained to the history of flamenco, and the struggle of the Gipsy life if I remember correctly..

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 20 2012 20:46:44