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davewphx

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RE: What happened to the "tradi... (in reply to britguy) 
That stuff looks good. Mine is a solid sheet.

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Paul Magnussen

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RE: What happened to the "tradi... (in reply to rombsix) 
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Indeed, he [Paco Peña] has. I've seen an album cover of his with a guitar support (like that Gitano one) stuck to his ax.


Can you tell me which one? To me at least, it doesn’t seem obvious.

You can find all his album covers in one place on his website:

http://www.pacopena.com/discs.php
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mark indigo

 

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RE: What happened to the "tradi... (in reply to Paul Magnussen) 
this one? has something stuck on the side of the left lower bout.



and in this video



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Cervantes

 

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RE: What happened to the "tradi... (in reply to britguy) 
I have mostly used the Diego Del Morao position but it is hard on the back and neck.
I have recently transitioned to traditional and like it because my left hand works better since it doesn't have reach as far and I don't have large hands.
I have been using a Dynarette cushion and like it.
I can't use the Paco position because my hips are not flexible enough.

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aaron peacock

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RE: What happened to the "tradi... (in reply to britguy) 
how about this "holding it up in the air like a violin tucked in under the chin" old style ? (not sideways, right arm is using some pressure, chin and shoulder and this holding it)

I try it, but then i find I can't move my left-hand easily. What's the trick and how did those of yore hold the guitar like this and yet still play so well?

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Cervantes

 

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RE: What happened to the "tradi... (in reply to aaron peacock) 
You have to hold the guitar with the inside of your right elbow and against the right leg.
The guitar should be stable without even touching it with your left hand.

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Ricardo

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RE: What happened to the "tradi... (in reply to Cervantes) 
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ORIGINAL: Cervantes

You have to hold the guitar with the inside of your right elbow and against the right leg.
The guitar should be stable without even touching it with your left hand.


Not sure if this was what he meant, the violin thing was nonsensical. But if the issue is freedom to move left hand, well there are plenty of times you can’t hold the guitar with the right elbow. When shifting between alzapua and picado for example, the elbow has to drop...and if it is during a passage where the left hand needs to move nothing feels secure.

I feel it literally as a juggling act, tossing the weight between both hands depending on the passage. I learned this from having to play in a bar stool where lifting the leg up to PDL position was not an option. It took some getting used to, and if you play some advanced music that moves like Guajiras de Lucia NOTE FOR NOTE (oh, there is a good reason lol), you make the shifting and jugging part of the song.

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aaron peacock

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RE: What happened to the "tradi... (in reply to davewphx) 
i meant standing and holding it as such:

https://youtu.be/qTESw5H_3-4?t=440


or




I realize that it's not common, even photos of R. Montoya or C. Montoya etc, but i also recall many standing players particularly accompanying dance in "shows"
am I mad?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2021 22:23:47
 
Ricardo

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RE: What happened to the "tradi... (in reply to aaron peacock) 
Lol no man you can’t play that way for more than a minute or two

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devilhand

 

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RE: What happened to the "tradi... (in reply to aaron peacock) 
Has anyone tried it?



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