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britguy

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Folic acid for strong nails - really??? 

I was chatting with a local salon "nail guru" recently. She told me folic acid (available in inexpensive pill form from drug stores) was excellent for helping to grow strong, healthy, natural nails.

Anybody else ever heard of this, or has tried it?

I splurged and bought a bottle ($8.95 for #365) just for the hell of it, but may be some time before anything shows up.

Anything to help my weak old nails. . . .

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

I know it will help in case you get pregnant - it aids in preventing neural tube defects. However, when it comes to nail strengthening, you're on your own.

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

quote:

folic acid

yep. for cellular re growth...alternatively do the popeye thing and eat lots of spinach...primarily iron or Bgroup...folic acid is in most Vit B supplements.
cod liver oil..[not in capsules]...5ml each day [quite palatable though hated it as a 5 year old]...great for nails.
and rubbing virgin olive oil into them...
plus magnesium or flaxseed oil for any type of inflamation or sore joints in fingers or anywhere...
helps me anyway...low on breakages for many years now. last 'fake' or 'built' nail was 1998...

all this stuff was suggested by a natropath and seems to work...given time.

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

quote:

I know it will help in case you get pregnant - it aids in preventing neural tube defects. However, when it comes to nail strengthening, you're on your own.


hahahaha exaclty,

my wife is using it right now,cause she is pregnant,

britguy amigo, dont do it

use this one and you will be just fine:

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

From what I've read biotin and omega-3's are useful for nail strength. There should be some info on the foro about biotin.

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

The substance needed for nail and hair growth is named keratin.
If you make a forum search under this term you will find more info about it.

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britguy

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to Guest

(Quote): ("use a hair/nail supplement ..... made for women!!!

I haven't broke a nail in almost a year now..... Of course I also regularly apply nail magic which makes my nails like indestructible....")

O.K. What is this hair/nail supplement you use, and what is your "nail magic"?

(And to Haithanflamenco:)" my wife is using it right now,cause she is pregnant,

britguy amigo, dont do it "

Guess I'd better not. Getting pregnant at my age (77) would be somewhat embarrassing!!!


Thanks anyway. . .

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

My nails grew from thin to thick last summer when I was doing framing(building houses).
Worked at a health food store many years ago; Nothing there(dietary) helped me.
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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

Because there is no lack of keratin supply with average food consumption / the cause being within rather complex metabolism issues.

Whereas it sounds plausible to me that external physical challenge might trigger enhanced nail growth, like experienced in your case.

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to Ruphus

quote:

The substance needed for nail and hair growth is named keratin

Its not quite that simple though. If you eat foods rich in calcium, it doesnt necessarily mean you get stronger bones. The calcium needs to be metabolised by your body to get into the bone matrix and that depends on other factors such as vitamin D, oestrogen levels, nicotin levels, small colon disease etc.

The same is true of Keratin. Eating foods rich in Keratin does not mean your nails and hair get stronger. Nail health is dependant on many factors not just one. You have to have vitamins A , C, D and B12 in the diet so milk, fish oils, cereals, fruit juices, raw veg...that is to say a balenced healthy diet with as little processed foods as possible is good for nail health...as well as every other aspect of your well being.
Enzymes help metabolise nutrients and taking the amino acid L- cysteine is a way of improving nail strength. Biotin is basically a B complex which is a factor ( but not the only one) in nail health. Over the years I have tried everything from superglue to glass fibre to gel resins to dietary supplements etc. If you can get your nails strong from inside yourself, ie eating well and using supplements, this is by far the best method.

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

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Whereas it sounds plausible to me that external physical challenge might trigger enhanced nail growth, like experienced in your case.


That's pretty much where my thinking went after I made the realization that the physical stress to the finger/nail/body area trumped diet in this case.

What I WOULD like to understand is how to quantify the exercise into a method for nail strength improvement.
I am very very happy with my nails these days. But before I had to have fakies put on at the salon.
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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to jaggedsphere

playing much and filing every day works for me...i guess im fortunate my nails are both strong and flexible...
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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

I take MSM for my joint pain from sports, and it has made
my nails stonger...

It is advertised to strengthen joint cartilage, skin, etc.

The powder is cheaper than the capsules.

http://www.vitacost.com/Jarrow-Formulas-MSM-Sulfur-Powder-1-lb
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AlVal

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

if you can get pass the 'luscious nails' comment.... bit some dietry stuff on the link
http://www.blackmores.com.au/learning-centre/article/naturally-beautiful?gclid=CLLNrdjW0KsCFUFLpgodhnHhVQ

guess we're all different but i think Pimiento speaks great words of wisdom.
maybe see a natropath...?
i'm no glowing example of health but it does have to come from the inside for cellular regrowth etc....
keeping the nail 'moist' ie olive oil in my case seems to do better than any hardener....so they are flexible as opposed to being rigid which will cause breaking or snapping.
good luck...thanks for the post.

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Ruphus

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to Pimientito

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ORIGINAL: Pimientito

quote:

The substance needed for nail and hair growth is named keratin

Its not quite that simple though. If you eat foods rich in calcium, it doesnt necessarily mean you get stronger bones. The calcium needs to be metabolised by your body to get into the bone matrix and that depends on other factors such as vitamin D, oestrogen levels, nicotin levels, small colon disease etc.


That would be converting the converted.
You might have overlooked the post right above yours.
- Just like two commentators after you.

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ORIGINAL: Pimientito

The same is true of Keratin. Eating foods rich in Keratin does not mean your nails and hair get stronger. Nail health is dependant on many factors not just one. You have to have vitamins A , C, D and B12 in the diet so milk, fish oils, cereals, fruit juices, raw veg...that is to say a balenced healthy diet with as little processed foods as possible is good for nail health...as well as every other aspect of your well being.
Enzymes help metabolise nutrients and taking the amino acid L- cysteine is a way of improving nail strength. Biotin is basically a B complex which is a factor ( but not the only one) in nail health. Over the years I have tried everything from superglue to glass fibre to gel resins to dietary supplements etc. If you can get your nails strong from inside yourself, ie eating well and using supplements, this is by far the best method.


The irritation of metabolism mustn´t be bound to deficient diet. There can be and often are other issues depending on items like thyroid and hormonal household etc. ( = generally of sense to ensure sufficient iodine supply.)

Diet wise the average nutrition will do, unless it was about special conditions like during pregnancy, undernourishment or for symptomatical treatment.

Cow milk besides ain´t recommendable at all, as its contents of phosphates counters its portion of calcium. It is intended for a metabolism entirely different from human.

If milk, horse milk would be optimal substitute, and the one of goat and even of sheep would be much more suitable to humans than cow milk.

Most of all options however would I expect from physical strain like experienced by Jaggesphere. The same strain that helps skeleton staying in shape; weight hauling, contraction, pressure and impacts as encountered during intense physical work should provide the best precondition for strong nail growth.

Whereas the opposite, physically supportive / protective measures like glueing on material and chemical treatment should only result in more weakening over time.

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to Ruphus

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The same strain that helps skeleton staying in shape; weight hauling, contraction, pressure and impacts as encountered during intense physical work should provide the best precondition for strong nail growth.

Whereas the opposite, physically supportive / protective measures like glueing on material and chemical treatment should only result in more weakening over time.


Interesting observations, from everyone.

I've been using a 'paint-on' nail hardener for about a year, but got sick and tired of having to clean it all off evey couple of weeks, and also I was constantly getting split and cracked nails and having to glue them. Strangely enough, very little of the damage was caused by actual playing, mostly by something else. (Usually when working at the farm).

Just over a month ago I stopped using the hardener, and while my natural nails are quite thin, soft and flexible - so far I have had no nail damage at all. Just an occasional slight fraying at the tips, which is easily buffed out. Strange. . .

My business activity is growing and selling fruit (Asian Pears and apples) which does demand some fairly rigourous ongoing physical activity ( hauling heavy ladders, wheelbarrowing soil, digging holes, carrying 50 lb baskets of fruit, etc. etc. etc. ). I also swim a lot. All of which seem to contribute to keeping me in reasonable physical shape for an old bugger in his late 70's.

Conclusion: Maybe Ruphus has a couple of good points here?

Maybe. . .

Anyway, I've given up the Folic Acid tablets.
Anybody in here who's pregnant want to buy the rest of the bottle? Perhaps I'll list it in the classfieds.




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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to Ruphus

bla bla bla bla.......

KRAZY GLUE.



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bla bla bla bla.......

KRAZY GLUE.


works on broken headstocks too

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

Yeah, Crazy Glue works.

Lately ive been going bare. I could swear once i stop worring about my nails
i dont have issues.
When i mess with them and worry about them, i have issues.
Keeping them short is good too.

I like to practice with them a bit too short for a week
or so, then when they get back to good length, i feel really strong and surefooted.

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

bla bla bla bla.......

KRAZY GLUE.


Is that true, Ricky?

Do you really coat your nails with Krazy Glue, all the time?

No ill effects???

How do you get the stuff off?

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RE: Folic acid for strong nails - re... (in reply to britguy

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ORIGINAL: britguy

quote:

bla bla bla bla.......

KRAZY GLUE.


Is that true, Ricky?

Do you really coat your nails with Krazy Glue, all the time?

No ill effects???

How do you get the stuff off?

Krazy glue is ethyl cyanoacrylate. Other brand name products are the same thing like brush on nail glue of various types.

No ill effects...it was first used to close open wounds by surgeons. Also liquid band-aid is the same stuff...it is non toxic, you can eat it when dry. But read the label for other ingrediants. Only danger is bonding skin and eyes when it is not yet dry. It does not dry out my nails or make them brittle. It is like a second layer of skin, and that is why it works good on cuts and abrasions and such.

You dont' need to take it off (and should not try to either), it will flake off with dead skin cells over time, like a shedding reptile. I just apply more when this happens...always....also playing the guitar will gradually wear it off....just like skin and nails....hence the need to use it....

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