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RE: Doctor Compás flamenco metronome available for iPhone/iPod/iPad
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Maissam
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 RE: Doctor Compás flamenco metronom... (in reply to bule_b)
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@bule_b:
Thanks for your comments. We should make this more clear, but we highly recommend earphones/speakers because the iPhone speaker is very small. We are trying to develop ways of boosting the volume to the maximum possible without distorting the high quality audio samples, but every metronome on the iPhone is going to have this problem. It is really an intrinsic limitation of the technology. To be heard over the guitar, a speaker needs to be VERY loud; my macbook pro isn't even loud enough to accompany me without external speakers or headphones. But I would have thought it's still easier to carry an iPhone and some headphones than to lug your laptop around...
About the improvisation: palmas are something that change and its VERY, VERY important for students of flamenco to learn to hold their ground as the rhythm develops. The reason for the improvise feature is to simulate real artists playing compás, so that the transition from practice at home to performing with real people is easier.
When I used to practice guitar, I would start practicing a falseta with a basic metronome, then when I was comfortable enough I would try some backing track loops, and even then I found it very difficult to follow live palmas. Doctor Compás has all in one. It has a basic metronome click feature, then you can turn off the improvisation and have the equivalent of a solo compás cd for every single palo except at any tempo you like, and finally you can have it improvise and mimic real artists, for which there is nothing similar available.
Jaleos are a very particular thing and not just words, they have a rhythmic purpose and to have them included in a metronome they would have to be COMPLETELY time stretchable and each syllable needs to be in perfect time in order to be done in an authentic way.
Finally, the main point of Doctor Compás is to have amazing soniquete. All the professional flamenco artists that Jason works with are totally impressed at how much soniquete Doctor Compás has. We feel that these tracks are very realistic, unlike any of the other flamenco metronomes available.
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Date Aug. 22 2011 21:03:29
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Mark2
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RE: Doctor Compás flamenco metronom... (in reply to Guest)
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I have dr compas and also beat vibe, which I've had for some time. Beat vibe is very cool as is dr. compas. Beat vibe you can program specific patterns which can come in handy if you want to mark a certain accent to work on something specific. I'm pretty sure you can also program it to switch between a few patterns.
Dr. compas is a completely different animal because it's more like playing with people doing palmas. I find myself turning off beat vibe after ten minutes because I'm bored with hearing the exact same sound and pattern. Dr. compas I can play along for an hour por bulerias and really enjoy it.
As to volume issues with both products, neither one can deliver enough volume if your listening through the i phone speaker and playing at normal volume. This is an issue with the i phone no matter what is being played. Even phone conversations can be hard to hear.
Ther diservice part I'm not sure I get. Either you can play along to palmas or you can't. If your still learning and can't identify if you've lost the compas, then dr. compas may challenge you because there is not always a gong or whatever on ten or not always something slamming 6,8, and 10.
OTHO, that doesn't happen consistantly when playing in real life situations either, so I don't agree about the diservice part. It may not spoon feed you the accents every compas, but IMO the app could go a long way towards teaching people to play in a real situation as opposed to many of the loops created by users of beat vibe which, IMO, don't come close to representing what people do in real life. Most of the loops for beat vibe I've downloaded don't sound authentic in terms of the programing. That's no knock on the app itself- users can program what they want to hear.
A tap feature would be cool. Hopefully, the product will be updated as time goes by, but it is an amazing tool.
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ORIGINAL: nealf
A few points:
1. Why is there no "tap feature" whereby you can tap the screen in time with a song etc to set the tempo. Should be a standard feature.
2. Any beginners or intermediates using this "improvisation" feature when practicing are doing themselves a real disservice.
3. So how is everyone using this device if the volume is too low?? Carrying some portable speakers to practice?
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Date Sep. 23 2011 22:12:07
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RE: Doctor Compás flamenco metronom... (in reply to Guest)
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to me there are two sides to this
1 someone who is both Beginning guitar and flamenco simultaneously [utmost respect for this group...sheesh!]
2 those who may have a decade or two or three or four under their fingers with the guitar [whether related or unrelated musically, but are adept at other musical 'styles'] but are beginning their journey into flamenco guitar
for group 1...sure there's so much fundamental music application to get under their fingers that the 'impro' features could or would be a confusing element...still once the basic of basic solea compass is under one's fingers and 'in time' the 'impro' option will certainly aid in 'feel' and 'Aural' perception of compas...so to me an accelerated learning and practice experience...but yes one must learn to play the 'basic' time feel..dr compas can provide this and more.
for group 2 chances are there is a background that incorporates improvisation or at least syncopation of the 'basic' pulse or 'feel'...so again this can highlight a musicality..a kind of push or throwing into unknown areas which seems to me what flamenco is about to a degree...this way you can add variations on the patterns you've worked hard on...in real time...
dont get me wrong though am a great believer in the 'click' to work things out but when it comes to 'practice' you want to be extending your 'ears' 'feel' in a spontaneous way [providing it is in 'time'] so the impro feature is a mighty cool thing indeed....so much of flamenco is about interaction
just remembering my first ever flamenco showa [totally thrown in the deep end with experienced players] there was a good cajon player there and found it difficult to work out where the compas was due to various accents and phrases he was playing...
in support of the doctor if that option were available then i would have probably faired better with his rhythmic 'interference' of what i thought compas was....
dr compass operates as a basic metronome, a compass loop and something else which throws you into a type of performance mode
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volume
got to be honest it has'nt been an issue...crank the volume when coming from my phone [i can hear it ?]or use a light sound with headphones [like you would when recording with a cajon, so i see it as like practicing with in ear monitoring]...and theres always the computer speakers at home where i practice.., my aer also has aux inputs...huge sound!..good sounds to practice with.
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tap
sure. but not that important. most would know where the main markers on a metronome are.
the downside of dr compass?
yet to find one other than it not being available on a variety of platforms but guess that's on it's way.
sometimes i get the dust off the wittner mechanical metronome...they sound great too.
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waiting for the pc version as well 
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