Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.
This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.
We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.
|
|
|
RE: Right hand Pinky / Little finger
|
You are logged in as Guest
|
|
Users viewing this topic: none
|
|
Login  | |
|
   
kitarist
Posts: 1715
Joined: Dec. 4 2012
|
 RE: Right hand Pinky / Little finger (in reply to glowingturnip)
|
|
|
quote:
It's a funny one - in the banjo world (scruggs) you're supposed to have both a and s planted, but so many can't manage it and have to go for one or the other. I could do both, maybe my fingers are relatively independent from each other
The banjo hand setup seems very different from classical/flamenco guitar. I can see why it would be easy to rest your s (and a) fingers in that position, especially with the finger implements making the thumb play nowhere near the strings. It is a much more supinated position compared to guitar (meaning wrist rotated so thumb away from, and pinky into, the strings.
Without the implements on the guitar your wrist should pronate back for the thumb to be able to stroke without getting into the im fingers, and so that a m and i can have more equal access and leverage to play their strings for arpeggios etc.
Once you do that repositioning of your hand, trying to keep that and have the pinky anchored is putting more strain on you hand/tendons as now the excursion of [m and of] a away from pinky is larger than in banjo.
This is important because the m, a, and pinky (marked as 'c' below) are somewhat interconnected, sharing tendon structures; a and s especially, but also m and a. This is unlike p and i which have their independent flexors and extensors and tendon structures. For this reason a standard recommendation in a classical guitar technique context for 'what to do with pinky' is that it should naturally/passively follow its 'a' neighbour as a moves about.
Where I am going with this is that insisting on keeping s (pinky) anchored in the new guitaristic hand position puts more strain on your hand because of the hand's anatomical features (or is it 'bugs'?). Not only are you restricted somewhat in playing various flamenco techniques, but you also run the risk of hand health problems down the line.
So I think, on the balance of it, I agree with Stu completely that the cons outweigh the pros.
Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px
 Attachment (2)
_____________________________
Konstantin
|
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Aug. 26 2020 18:51:50
 |
|
glowingturnip
Posts: 7
Joined: Aug. 26 2020
|
|
RE: Right hand Pinky / Little finger (in reply to kitarist)
|
|
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: kitarist
Without the implements on the guitar your wrist should pronate back for the thumb to be able to stroke without getting into the im fingers, and so that a m and i can have more equal access and leverage to play their strings for arpeggios etc.
yes, I think I see what you mean, and actually that's it - with my pinkie anchored, my i and p are actually in a line with each other, and even meet if I do say a 4321 roll. If I rotate more to get the thumb a bit more forward then, yes, it does become an uncomfortable position with the pinkie down. I shall drop it.
Another thing about the banjo that you will all definitely hate is that it's considered common practice to have your left hand thumb sticking up like a, err, sore thumb, so that you can be ready to wrap it over and fret your 5th string with it ! I never could bring myself to play like that.
Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px
|
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Aug. 27 2020 11:49:29
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
 Locked w/ New Messages |
 Locked w/o New Messages |
|
Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts
|
|
|
Forum Software powered by ASP Playground Advanced Edition 2.0.5
Copyright © 2000 - 2003 ASPPlayground.NET |
0.078125 secs.
|
Printable Version
loved those Oles after his picados 
about the arpeggios, which thread amigo ? 
