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jsierles

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TomaFlamenco - a new online flamenco...

Everyone, sorry for placing a promotion here if this is the wrong place, but I thought it might be of interest to the guitarists on here.

Over the last year I've been working on a site for providing streaming flamenco lessons (guitar, singing, dance) from artists in Sevilla. The site just launched with some lessons in place and will be adding more every month. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions. The classes are intended to be recorded depending on what people want to see.

http://tomaflamenco.com

Thanks!

Joshua Sierles

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Munin

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From: Hong Kong

RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

WOW. This could be great. Awesome idea. Will check it out.

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HolyEvil

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From: Sydney, Australia

RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

i like the site.. cheers mate

p/s- oh maybe have some english subtitles? =)

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mark74

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

I agree with Holy Evil that subtitles in English would be by far and away the best additional investment you could make

You're competing for the American market against Jason McGuire's site which is a really extraordinary resource, so subtitles would be critical even though the site looks fantastic and comes from the motherland.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 6:43:13

Kevin James Shanahan

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From: Wooli, NSW Australia

RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

Your site looks excelent , sadly I can not subscribe unless there are some subtitles or naration , get that and I'm there.

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mark74

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to Kevin James Shanahan)

I agree

Subtitles even better than narration for me because I love the sound of Spanish in the context of flamenco

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 6:49:29

xirdneH_imiJ

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From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

wow!
yes, english subtitles will be needed...

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Ramirez

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

Your site and lessons look excellent - very authentic.

If you add English subtitles, i'll sign up!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 8:17:47

jsierles

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

Thanks for the feedback!

English subtitles will be available soon. Right now, the site is focused on intermediate level flamenco, at which many people already know Spanish.

The goal is to subtitle, but to make sure the context is maintained, so it has to be done right. We believe for learning flamenco it's critical to understand the terms and manners of the art as well as techniques.

Joshua

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XXX

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

um, the guitarrist is Jose Luis Rodriguez and he is top notch. ALmost unbelievable that you could win him to do some teaching. Awesome.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 8:37:13

jsierles

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to XXX)

Deniz,

José Luís has been an integral part of the site from the beginning and is very enthusiastic about participating. We're happy to have him.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 8:40:22

jsierles

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to mark74)

mark,

I agree that Jason's site is a great resource, especially for people just starting out. Our goal is to complement that material with guitar lessons focused more on learning in context, especially for things like accompaniment and singing. We also hope to encourage people to visit Spain and study with these teachers.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 8:43:57

Tomrocker

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From: Italy

RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

Congrats for the beautiful site. I guess while waiting for the English Subtitles, we can learn like 10 new spanish words a day and you will be surprised by the end of the month how wonderful your level is with some little grammar as well;))

Cheers

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Doitsujin

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

Looks very good. The artists are very good.. A little bit expensive. Are there some other samples which better show what material would be avalible? The teaser video looks great, but I would be happy for an uncut complete scene.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 10:48:53

El Kiko

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From: The South Ireland

RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

looks very good , something for everyone , you can learn Spanish if you want but
I hear the familiar Andlu' accent here , like not pronuncing the S and missing the end of certain words etc.. so I would'nt go for classical Spanish , I suppose you just have to get used to it..... subtitiles would be funny as there would be some ammount of decision making there.......

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 11:11:37

jsierles

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to Doitsujin)

There are a few free classes available here:

http://flamencosporelmundo.com/lessons?free=true

Joshua

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 11:24:56

Arash

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From: Iran (living in Germany)

RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

when i first saw the title in the list of new posts, i thought to myself:

"oh no, another guy who wants to jump on the "online lessons train" and teach before he is really READY to teach".

but this really looks pro. and Jose Luis knows for sure what he is doing.

great site! great news.

english subtitles is a must!
you have many potential "customers" here, who don't speak spanish.

best of luck to you and your site.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 12:31:00

jsierles

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to Arash)

Arash,

Thanks for the compliments! We strive to work with artists who already have extensive experience teaching, like José Luís Rodriguez or Concha Vargas, or are eager to try in areas where good teachers are scarce (like cante, compás).

Subtitles so far has been our biggest request, so we'll try to get that going soon. As mentioned before, it's a challenge, but i think worthwhile.

Joshua

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 12:43:25

Arash

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to Doitsujin)

Doit, the price is fair. I mean check out the artists.
They are all top notch.
And we have single guitarists who charge nearly the same.

and others....

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However, Joshua, for monthly fee based lessons, its important to know how many lessons are already available to begin with !
I mean it doesn't make sence to start with only 5 or 6 lessons, then add few each month.
There should be a lot of lessons already recorded as a Basis to start with, then add new lessons each month.
Please inform about details

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 13:18:23

Munin

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

Wow that was Rocio Marquez in the teaser? I recognized her voice but couldn't identify her visually.

But yes I would like to know too how many lessons there are available now. Otherwise I am more than happy to sign up in a few months, when there's more.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 13:36:43

jsierles

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to Munin)

Munin,

Yes, that's Rocio. We have around 18 lessons now (I'm finishing edits on a few right now).
For guitar, we have a solea para baile and a rondeña coming up.

We will be recording more every month - definitely would like to hear what kinds of material people are interested in.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 13:41:33

jsierles

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

Just to be clear, you can see the available lessons here:

http://flamencosporelmundo.com/lessons

Joshua

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 13:43:35

Munin

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

Seems like a great start! Personally I would be interested in cante accompaniment perhaps also accompanied by some theory and explanation, since that's very rare. I also saw that you have pure cante lessons available too - that's probably a first in the internet world. Impressive. You should keep that up.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 13:54:02

Lucerom

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

Does the site also provide the sheet music / score in tab for each guitar lesson?

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mezzo

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

is it possible to download the lessons and working them offline?

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jsierles

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to Lucerom)

Lucerom,

No sheet music or scores are provided currently.

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jsierles

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to mezzo)

Mezzo,

For now, videos are streaming only. We may offer downloadable videos in the future if there is demand for it.

Joshua

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Kate

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RE: Flamencos por el Mundo - a new o... (in reply to jsierles)

Well done Josh, nice to see it coming together. Un abrazo fuerte de Grana'

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