Chilean Mine Rescue

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Ron.M

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Chilean Mine Rescue

Great, positive news on our screens at last!

This must surely celebrate the very, very best in humanity.

Matched in tension and drama practically IMO only by the first Moon landing.

A big OLÉ to the Engineers and Technicians and everyone involved in this amazing feat!

Just brilliant!

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2010 18:16:35

Cloth Ears

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Ron.M)

I have been improving my spanish all day while enjoying each 'T T T' signifying the return of another missing miner...

...I touched Vicente's Zapateado in celebration of the first, my own Zapa. for the next...

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Funny thing is that I started on my own Taranta this weekend having listened to Tomatito's one from 10 years ago ,, and having really enjoyed its toque libre (as opposed to the structured TarantO).

Anyway, I was chatting to my partner on skype and whittering away trying to name this piece this afternoon having forgotten that: Saturday night it was called "Taranta del Arachnidas", which I wrote at 5am in in my repertoire list file.

It was only as the miners were lifted that I thought I would check that my ageing memory hadn't got the better of me:

http://onlineguitaracademy.com/flamenco-guitar-lesson-articles/forms-toques/tarantos-and-tarantas.html

...which reafirmed that Taranta IS toque libre.

Imagine my surprise when I read again after 5 years that Taranta originates in the Spanish mining belt and of course: TARANTULA.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2010 19:56:58

Estevan

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From: Torontolucía

RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Ron.M)

Lo shileno se pasaron, weón!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2010 20:11:50

Doitsujin

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Ron.M)

I saw maybe 4 secs in TV today about that... So they rescued some miners? Nice.
Scary pictures I saw during these 4 sec... What a ****ty job they have..And i thought mine sucks..

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2010 20:18:42

Ron.M

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Doitsujin)

quote:

So they rescued some miners? Nice.

Exactly...

In fact when I mentioned it to my 17 year old daughter (getting herself ready to go out for an evening and playing pop music on her computer), she said "Miners?...What miners?...I don't even know what you're talking about?"

Guess that's life these days...

(In the same way that Flamenco is not about expressing human emotion anymore...but expressing great technique and virtuosity in the hope of fame, fortune and celebrity...)

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2010 20:26:01

Estevan

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Doitsujin)

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Scary pictures I saw during these 4 sec... What a ****ty job they have.

It's terrible. Yet, strangely, according to the short biographies in the newspapers, there are a couple of these guys who actually like working underground, and one of those has been trapped twice before!

For the rest it's just a very scary and dangerous way for poor guys with few options to make some money. One of them refers to the mine as "the slaughterhouse".

Fortunately (with regard to being rescued, anyway) Chile is a modern high-tech country. Things are much worse next door in Bolivia:

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/bolivia/100316/bolivia-children-mines

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2010 20:50:51

Pgh_flamenco

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From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Estevan)

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Fortunately (with regard to being rescued, anyway) Chile is a modern high-tech country.

Chile had help from NASA and the company from Somerset County that drilled the hole to rescue the Quecreek miners. They also used the same type of basket and a specially designed drill bit manufactured by Center Rock. A few of the Quecreek rescuers were in Afghanistan drilling water wells when they heard about the trapped miners and the likelihood they would be stuck in that mine until December. These guys were convinced they could get them out a lot faster and they succeeded. Some of the details are in the story below.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/25360492/detail.html

There were, of course, many other companies from all over the world that contributed to this great outcome.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2010 22:50:54

Cloth Ears

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Ron.M)

Is there time?

Plenty. So why not spend that time enjoying the rescue live on the internet? I know you MAKE time Ron...for you are a Time Lord!

The pleasure of overhearing David Cameron talking on El Presidente's moby was awesome...but nothing compared every loving interaction between the community at the mine head.

The whole experience has been enormously inspiring and I look forward to performing "Taranta del Mio" to genuine people like yourself Ron, but only if we have a proper juerga in the UK someday....

...you know....a family affair where we all join in and do our bit...and NO STAGE!...and ONLY FLAMENCOS + extended family (cf. definition of juerga)

p.s. been a long time..got frightened off about 5 years ago by all the flaming ...cheers for taking on the torch from Escribano. *lurks*

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2010 23:01:06

Escribano

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Cloth Ears)

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cheers for taking on the torch from Escribano.

WTF? Are all your marbles where they were when you left the house? Just wondering because you seem to be rambling incoherently.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2010 23:58:10

Escribano

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Ron.M)

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Great, positive news on our screens at last!

Cheered me up for sure.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 14 2010 0:00:25

Cloth Ears

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Escribano)

I thought that I read you had stopped supporting the forum a few years ago due to being busy...no? I have been away...

Sorry if I published something incorrect :-/

my ramblings seem coherent: Taranta is the miners compas, and I have spent all day listening to them winching those poor souls and trying to compose said piece...have I done something to offend you?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 14 2010 0:26:33

Escribano

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Cloth Ears)

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Sorry if I published something incorrect :-/

No offence taken, I am still here. Took umbrage for a moment, that's all. Peace.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 14 2010 7:55:36

Markus3

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Ron.M)

I heard that at first they were thinking of leaving the 33 miners down there because it was too much money to build the drill that can make a hole 2,500 feet deep. In the end countries from all over the world pitched in parts, the drill came from US and Germany i think.

This story was a nice piece of optimism in every day pessimistic news.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 14 2010 23:32:31

Cloth Ears

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Markus3)

I do hope that David Cameron is going to be talking with El Presidente and The President of how we in global culture can make amends for forcing these people down that hole in the first place....

...Earth, she aint pleased methinks.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2010 13:18:17

XXX

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Markus3)

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ORIGINAL: Markus3

I heard that at first they were thinking of leaving the 33 miners down there because it was too much money to build the drill that can make a hole 2,500 feet deep. In the end countries from all over the world pitched in parts, the drill came from US and Germany i think.

This story was a nice piece of optimism in every day pessimistic news.

If what you say is really true, then i cant see any positive in such a thing.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2010 13:21:02

Ron.M

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to Cloth Ears)

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for forcing these people down that hole in the first place....

Well...no one forced them.
I did an equally dangerous job in my twenties when the offshore oil industry was in it's infancy and practically unregulated. There was no such thing as Health & Safety....you just looked out for yourself and others and prayed to God, or carried a black cat bone and a mojo too.

The money was good and that's all we cared about...end of story.

As far as the 33 miners are concerned, you can be certain now that everything ended well that the British tabloids will be working night and day to try to dig up the dirt or anything iffy on these guy's personal lives.
Anything more positive or happy on these guys is no longer best selling news.

Scandal and dirt is.
Wait and see!

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2010 17:01:45

Markus3

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RE: Chilean Mine Rescue (in reply to XXX)

Truth is ugly, I would rather hear lies as they are much more pleasant.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deniz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Markus3

I heard that at first they were thinking of leaving the 33 miners down there because it was too much money to build the drill that can make a hole 2,500 feet deep. In the end countries from all over the world pitched in parts, the drill came from US and Germany i think.

This story was a nice piece of optimism in every day pessimistic news.

If what you say is really true, then i cant see any positive in such a thing.