RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010

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veet

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Joined: Nov. 29 2004
From: L.A.

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to marduk)

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i have both the encuentro version and the album version of the tab, let me know if they're needed!

Hi, can I get these tabs as well, please? The Ravenna is inaccurate (to Moraito's playing) and doesn't indicate fingering either.

(my email is cantaor@gmail.com - thanks, V)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 12 2010 20:17:23

xirdneH_imiJ

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From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

i'll put them up on a free site soon!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 12 2010 20:18:43

at_leo_87

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

hey kozz,
that ligado section, im pretty sure he plays 0-1-0 instead of 1-2-1.

the ravenna tabs are close but there are small mistakes like that. i dont know if i'll be able to get to making a new version this week. maybe stu can help out?

ok, i fixed a couple of things. but it's still not perfect. it looks like the competitors will have freedom with the strumming, etc. anyways.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=145029&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2010 6:06:05

yohan

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

why don't we just take the encuentro one?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2010 8:01:29

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to yohan)

it's up to you guys. you can play whatever version. just remember to stick that closing alzapua section in from ravenna.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2010 8:12:21

xirdneH_imiJ

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From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to at_leo_87)

Rompeserones - Album version

Encuentro version

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2010 9:43:42

at_leo_87

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

thanks rich!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2010 14:28:57

at_leo_87

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

i believe last time, everyone had to play with the same capo position. shall we do capo 2 as a rule?

and please re-read the first post so that everyone understands what falseta we're playing. you play any version of the falseta, way of compas strumming is up to you, then close with the alzapua section from the ravenna version.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2010 14:44:04

xirdneH_imiJ

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From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to at_leo_87)

i think that capo position shouldn't be restricted at this level...they should play it the way they feel it's most comfortable...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2010 15:07:44

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

ok, fixed it!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2010 15:40:46

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to at_leo_87)

quote:

lol. somebody signed you up. apparently without your permission.
i'll just leave you in there and if you can do it, you can do it. if not, that's ok too.

Yep that was me

Come on man join this thing....sell the flute, sell the piano, buy a decent guitar and join!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2010 21:55:37

Pawo

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RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to at_leo_87)

I would like to join this beginners challenge if I may. Is the Ravenna site tab the one to use?

Cheers
Dave Smith

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 1:05:14

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

quote:

Come on man join this thing....sell the flute, sell the piano, buy a decent guitar and join!

yeah, come on minord!

quote:

I would like to join this beginners challenge if I may. Is the Ravenna site tab the one to use?

hey dave, welcome aboard! please read the info in the first post.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 1:26:05

Pawo

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RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to at_leo_87)

Thanks!

Looking at the different tabs I've noticed something bit confusing with the G7 chord bit in bar 19 of updated Ravenna tabs and bar 23 of original Ravenna tabs. The album version and Encuentro version have b flat making it G min7, but the Ravenna tabs including your updated version finger it as b natural making it G7.

Hope I've made this clear...

So I'm not sure whether it should be a form of G major or minor at that point?

Like to know which before my fingers start remembering the wrong chord!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 10:12:21

Pawo

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RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to Pawo)

Thinking about it...it must be Gmin cos G maj wouldn't fit in with the harmony of Tangos which I think is based on A phrygian

but someone please correct me If I'm wrong as I'm new to all this....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 10:51:33

Stu

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From: London (the South of it), England

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to Pawo)

I can do some editing if ya need me to but it seems there are tabs here!

Any want guitar pro version of this tab? i have it!

PM me

or is that unfair, maybe i should upload it for all!??

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 11:17:55

lowden

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RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to at_leo_87)

With all the available tabs and diffferent recordings I think Ive become confused with the aim of the BEGINNERS challenge. Do we keep it simple and clean or try and reproduce as close as we can the actual Moraito's Rompeserones
Falseta in question?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 12:59:57

at_leo_87

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

check out the recording. it's definitely not a minor. G7 IS used in A phrygian.

stu, can you send me the guitarpro tab? i'll upload it for everyone to have.

lowden, pick one that's suitable to your level. the point is that there's room for interpretation.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 14:13:40

Pawo

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to at_leo_87)

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ORIGINAL: at_leo_87
check out the recording. it's definitely not a minor. G7 IS used in A phrygian.

Thanks for the correction Antony...yes I can hear that the Ravenna fellow plays G7...my only point is on the album tabs and also the Encuentro tabs they use a
b flat... G min 7 is used.

So I suppose we can play it anyway we feel...both sound good

cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 17:18:09

Graham_B

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From: Leigh, Lancashire, UK

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

Happy to volunteer for admin if you need it for this or the coming challenges.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 17:32:22

at_leo_87

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

thanks graham!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 17:49:23

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

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Plan: Contestants will have until November 1 to learn and record any version of the falseta from below plus the alzapua ending from the Ravenna Version.

So focus on the alzapua's guys!

And if you already didn't know, kozze is gonna win this Challenge, so there is still time to backout now!

Oh, what about a new rule like: You can withdraw upuntill one week before the challenge ends!
All other should upload no matter how good it is.
I hate to see people withdrawing one day before it ends. It should allready be finished by then don't you think. Well I withdrawed myself to many times anyway

Time to get a jazzy sound out my gitar for the first part....I'll bet she will be angry with me in the first few hours, but then I give her a good thumb again.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 21:07:39

at_leo_87

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

yes, i agree with kozz,
just upload it! dont be shy! you've got nothing to lose but so much experience and feedback to gain.

some good news, graham has kindly volunteered to be the chosen one who will collect all the entries and will upload them to the foro.
thank you graham!

there's some confusion about what to actually play since there's so many variations. i'll make this clear as bell later on when i have more time.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2010 21:39:19

ConradP

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to at_leo_87)

I am officially scared of the alzapua LOL

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 15 2010 8:43:17

marduk

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

tangos is new to me so i will try really hard. im scared of the alzapua too but my thumb is getting the workout of its life at the moment and i hope to get better at it

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 15 2010 11:55:24

MikeInMpls

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From: Minneapolis, MN

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to ConradP)

Yep, the alzapua is going to be rough. I've never ventured to try it before and it's really awkward!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 15 2010 14:25:25

at_leo_87

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

here is some info about alzapua:

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 15 2010 15:49:51

kozz

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to at_leo_87)

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there's some confusion about what to actually play since there's so many variations. i'll make this clear as bell later on when i have more time.

That would be great!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 15 2010 16:33:49

at_leo_87

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RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to veet)

Ok,
There are three basic sections. We'll call them A, B, C.

-You can play some compas or tapado as an intro or just use the intro in section A.
-Play Section A from any of the given tabs.
-Section B is just basic compas. Play your own or use one from the given tabs. The length is up to you. In the Ravenna tabs, Section B goes until Section C. In the album and encuentro tabs, it goes until the next falseta.
-End with Section C which is only in the Ravenna Version.

First the Ravenna tabs.