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Jeff Highland
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From: Caves Beach Australia
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 RE: Solera specs ??? (in reply to satvic)
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How much Doming you want is a personal choice, but I agree with Andy 2-3mm is excessive. I went with the Courtnal book on this and used 2mm maximum.
I also used his recommended 3mm falloff from body junction to end of neck
However, this is only a starting point to get you in the ballpark.
You can always shim the end of the neck to reduce forward tilt, it is harder to increase it
You need to realise that setting bridge height and action is done not just by setting up the solera initially but by tweaking the neck angle at the time you glue on the back, taking into account doming height, desired string height at the bridge, 12 fret string height, fretboard thickness, fret height etc.
Fairly easy to do once you get your head around the geometry.
I guess the main point is, if you want a particular bridge string height, you have to take control of it hather than just trusting to solera measurements.
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Date Sep. 9 2010 21:38:07
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rodpacheco
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From: Mexico
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RE: Solera specs ??? (in reply to satvic)
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hey Satvic, how are you?
I have used 3mm for the dome, taking into account that the lower brace had a 1.5 - 2mm "radius", on a flat neck with internal reinforcement. The action that I have gotten was pretty much what your striving for: 2.8mm at 12th fret, and 9.5 at bridge height. The Feel was great for me. Although I tapered the fretboard from 6mm at nut, to 5mm at 12th fret, and a little more from the 12th to the soundhole. I really liked that set up.
On the other hand, now I am trying to give the neck a 2 - 3mm relief (YOUR C's??), striving for a more geometrical fretboard and the ability to have more control over the final set up which ever it's decided. You can always reduce the relief of the neck at the solera by putting a shim when you glue the back to the neck, to let´s say take it from 3mm to 2 o 1.5mm etc. At the end, as they have mentioned, it´s experimenting with this that will develop the guitar you envision and the method you are most satisfied with.
The best of lucks,
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Date Sep. 9 2010 23:43:04
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rodpacheco
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From: Mexico
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RE: Solera specs ??? (in reply to satvic)
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Satvic, check this out... read it slowly, and note that at the very end they mention Flamenco guitars.
What we´re trying to present to you is that, in order to reduce BUZZ, the neck would have to be tilted forward, as if you pushed it away from you, while holding the guitar in a playing position.
That's why the Solera would have to be tapered, from the 12th fret (which is ZERO), to the Nut (reducing or planing or sanding away 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3mm, etc. Whatever Set up you wish). The more forward the neck is tilted (NECK RELIEF), the LESS Buzz the guitar is likely to have, for now you have CLEARANCE.
If you were to tilt it BACK, you would get MORE Buzz, and the bridge would have to be super high (more that 12 or 13mm), as John Shelton commented.
http://www.hillguitar.com/website/news/articles/classical_guitar_setup.html
ANYWAY, read this carefully... Maaan, Pretty intense thread!! hahah
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Date Sep. 13 2010 21:42:27
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rodpacheco
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From: Mexico
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 RE: Solera specs ??? (in reply to Andy Culpepper)
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Agree, though I mentioned this, so as to not confuse Satvic, when I said the more Tilt Forward, the Less Buzz, where HE could get the idea of giving if a much bigger Tilt, and ending up having to make his bridge TOO Low. And not achieving the set up he wishes, which is 2.5 at 12th, and 10 at bridge height.
Once again, There's many ways to proceed depending on the set up wanted, Action, Buzz, etc.
Saludos!
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Date Sep. 13 2010 22:15:55
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