RE: Singing and playing guitar simultaneously

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rombsix

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From: Beirut, Lebanon

RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to Ron.M)

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Hey Ramzi,

Could you post yourself doing a cover version of "Jumhoriyet Albi", by Mohammed Iskandar?

cheers,

Ron

Ron!? Behave, now.

How in the name of all that is good did you find out about this song?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2010 12:05:39

Ron.M

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to rombsix)

BBC World Service, Ramzi

Apparently all the Beirut taxi drivers love it and have it blasting out of their cabs.

I hear too that a female Lebanese singer has released a single which is a reply to his.

They played the song and it sounded OK to me...(but I don't understand Arabic

)

(Sorta Lebanese "Gangsta" rap (only not rap) )

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2010 12:22:25

rombsix

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to Ron.M)

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BBC World Service, Ramzi

Ron, it's amazing that you know more about stuff like this than I do. And I live in Lebanon!

It's a good thing that you don't know Arabic, or else you might have been appalled at what Iskandar was saying in his song. I tried searching for an English translation of the lyrics online, but couldn't find one straight away. I would have translated them myself, but I don't have time at the moment. Here is the message in a nutshell:

http://news.meedan.net/index.php?page=events&post_id=302639

And here is the rebuttal song:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2010 12:36:42

gj Michelob

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to KMMI77)

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Ok you asked for it.

Here is my attempt at singing something.

I felt the need to try something different and although the end result is not great, it gave me some ideas for future recordings.

OMG... I loved it. Bravo KMMI77. We do have some serious talent here.
Perhaps it is time to allow a spin off to take place and add a new category to the Foro's lobby:

“FUNMENCO” Using Flamenco guitar and technique to play classical, pop, country or other forms and styles of music”.

There is a lively group, I noticed, who may enjoy posting and uploading thereunder. Including the undersigned lost soul.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2010 15:01:21

rombsix

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to gj Michelob)

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Perhaps it is time to allow a spin off to take place and add a new category to the Foro's lobby:

“FUNMENCO” Using Flamenco guitar and technique to play classical, pop, country or other forms and styles of music”.

I guess that's a slippery slope, there, GJ.

I have a feeling we're going to get banned from the foro.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2010 16:39:24

KMMI77

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to gj Michelob)

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OMG... I loved it. Bravo KMMI77

Thanks gj! It's always a bit scary uploading stuff like that.

But as they say, If your afraid of failing you can never win.

I approve of FUNMENCO

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2010 21:35:07

gj Michelob

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to rombsix)

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ORIGINAL: rombsix

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Perhaps it is time to allow a spin off to take place and add a new category to the Foro's lobby:

“FUNMENCO” Using Flamenco guitar and technique to play classical, pop, country or other forms and styles of music”.

I guess that's a slippery slope, there, GJ. I have a feeling we're going to get banned from the foro.

You have been sliding down that slope for a while, amigo...

Thank you for your support, KMMI77.

Here is one of my favorite YouTube stars, and fellow member, beatifully opening the dance ["what a waste a perfectly fine guitar" he would cry, but I believe he's showing his superb musicianship, as always]

http://www.youtube.com/user/Guitarwizard#p/a/u/1/fwHDf8wwcWY

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2010 22:00:20

rombsix

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to gj Michelob)

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You have been sliding down that slope for a while, amigo...

Guilty as charged.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 26 2010 4:58:20

KMMI77

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to gj Michelob)

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Here is one of my favorite YouTube stars, and fellow member, beatifully opening the dance ["what a waste a perfectly fine guitar" he would cry, but I believe he's showing his superb musicianship, as always]

Yes, Todd plays that very well. Nice, expressive and clean.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 26 2010 8:08:27

odinz

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to rombsix)

Hey rombsix. your voice seems to be the basis of a great singing voice.
What might be useful is to play scales on your guitar or something and then sing that scale as well, sounds kind of odd but it gives you greater controll over your voice, and even volume

Sounds great, good luck!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 26 2010 17:24:58

rombsix

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to odinz)

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play scales on your guitar or something and then sing that scale as well

Thanks odinz! I actually AM doing that. I felt that it was helping out as you said it would. Gracias for your feedback! Anymore tips are always welcome as I'm an absolute beginner at singing.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 26 2010 20:16:19

odinz

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to rombsix)

Thats great! Great way to to start out practicing.

For me, what is really helpful is posture!

Its not like i have the posture of an opera singer or something, but straightening up definatly helps to control your breathing:-)

So while playing guitar i guess you probably allready have a pretty good posture, but think straight back.

And when singing its allways good singing songs that match your vocal range.
But to expand your scale you can challenge yourself by singing more diverse songs,

You can practice vibrato.

I allways use Serj Tankian as a vocal reference for example. His singing fits my range.
Find your own reference singer that fits you to start practice.

And most important is to try to sing with your own viece, and not to try to copy other singers, this will make you strain and isnt natural

Just be natural about everything.. try to sustain a note for a longer and longer time etc..

And dont smoke!

Since you wanted to play guitar and sing simultaniously its important to practice both instruments at the same time.

So if its any help, try to play some really hard songs on the guitar slowely while singing them slowly, and play with tempo on everything

Hope this helps, good luck!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2010 7:53:20

rombsix

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to odinz)

Odinz! Gracias for your response. I've been doing exactly what you're saying. I'll be corresponding with you about certain points, when I get to them - if you don't mind.

In the spirit of this thread, here is a treat.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2010 15:46:45

odinz

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to rombsix)

Sure thing, ill be glad to follow your progress!

That video sounds great, i especially like thi guitar used

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2010 17:09:12

rombsix

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to odinz)

So, I haven't been practicing much lately due to time constraints, but I decided to have another take at this song, trying to "open up" as Ricardo had suggested.

A continuation to the previous video. The first section of this video shows me singing without trying to "open up," while the second section of this videos shows me singing while trying to "open up." This results in a louder volume, but a different vocal quality as well. I am using a capo this time to make the song match my vocal range.

It was just a coincidence that I ended up wearing the same t-shirt in parts 1 and 2 of these videos.

Comments?

PS: Odinz, what is your email?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 4 2010 22:10:35

rombsix

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to rombsix)

Justin is cool. Check him out:

http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinSandercoe/videos

http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinSandercoeSongs/videos

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2012 0:21:55

Estevan

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to rombsix)

Here's a nice example I came across recently. Something to aspire to, Ramzi

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 28 2012 17:25:32

rombsix

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RE: Singing and playing guitar simul... (in reply to Estevan)

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Here's a nice example I came across recently. Something to aspire to, Ramzi

Diego is great, obviously, Estevan. But what he is doing here is quite straightforward actually. Focus on what DIEGO is doing in terms of SIMULTANEOUS playing and singing, and you will see it's just a few chords here and there (simple down-strum), or if it's a pattern, it's a non-complicated and repetitive one.

What I was doing above with that Creed song is in my humble opinion MUCH harder. To be able to do COMPLEX accompaniment while at the same time doing the cante would be hard indeed, though...

Cheers!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 28 2012 17:34:49