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rombsix

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Learning how to sing 

Hello peeps,

I am interested in learning to sing and play guitar simultaneously. It's going to be some pop or soft rock songs, just to get the hang of learning to think of the two things at once without messing either up. It's more of something I want to do just like learning to tap my foot a la PdL like in the Almoraima video of when he was young (which I, and many people here, find difficult because it has to do with your brain concentrating on doing two things at once).

However, I also would like to learn to sing a bit properly, rather than just as part of this brain exercise. The problem is, that I've always had this issue where if I talk for a couple of hours, I go hoarse either directly, or the day after. Or, if I try to sing a bit, I go hoarse.

So I don't want to just sing ... and practice. I want to do that sort of formally, but I don't think I'm going to be able to take actual lessons - voice lessons. So I'm going to settle for material I can access online. However, I've been coming across a lot of EXERCISES and I've read about the possibility of injuring one's voice. And knowing that I have this thing where I get hoarse quite fast... I'm afraid if I actually start to do these exercises, or try to sing, that I am going to injure myself. I want to know if this thing I have with getting hoarse is because I sing / talk incorrectly, or because I am just born that way, and whether there is something that can be done to fix it, or if it is just God's way of telling me that I was never meant to sing...

Any tips, anyone?

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HemeolaMan

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RE: Learning how to sing (in reply to rombsix

yeah, when you sing, stop before you get hoarse. drink more water. find a friend who sings.

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mark indigo

 

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RE: Learning how to sing (in reply to rombsix

there was an Australian actor who kept getting hoarse and losing his voice while on stage

when he rested his voice it got better

when he used it it got worse

doctors couldn't help him

in the end he decided it must be something he was doing while using his voice that caused the problem

after some experiments and a lot of self observation he found that he pulled back his head, depressed his larynx and sucked in his breath

he found he could not control that last two, but that if he prevented himself from pulling back his head that also prevented the other two things

this greatly improved the condition of his throat and the functioning of his voice
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 26 2010 11:34:22
 
Ron.M

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RE: Learning how to sing (in reply to HemeolaMan

quote:

yeah, when you sing, stop before you get hoarse


I thought that in Andalucia, singers worked for YEARS to GET that "hoarse" voice!

(As well as smoking 60 cigs a day, staying up all night and drinking loads of that cheap, rough Spanish brandy. )

cheers,

Ron
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 26 2010 13:05:56
 
rombsix

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RE: Learning how to sing (in reply to Ron.M

quote:

I thought that in Andalucia, singers worked for YEARS to GET that "hoarse" voice!

(As well as smoking 60 cigs a day, staying up all night and drinking loads of that cheap, rough Spanish brandy. )


Ron! That's a sure way to come across a couple of these...

http://www.med.nyu.edu/voicecenter/conditions/voice/vocal_nodules.html

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 26 2010 13:35:33
 
henrym3483

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RE: Learning how to sing (in reply to rombsix

try doing a 3 or 4 chord song like blowing in the wind by dylan or yellow submarine by the beatles to start off with.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 26 2010 14:31:31
 
Ricardo

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RE: Learning how to sing (in reply to rombsix

experiment with singing in different keys, even if you THINK it might be out of your range. Record yourself and make sure you are getting the sound you want. It always feels good to sing, and even though you may sing in tune and in rhythm, it matters too what it sounds like to others.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 28 2010 15:17:35
 
rombsix

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RE: Learning how to sing (in reply to Ricardo

Gracias!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 28 2010 18:38:42
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