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ralexander

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From: Halifax, Nova Scotia

Jesus Bellido

Hello you fine foro members - yet another request from me for info on a specific luthier

Who has experience with the guitars of Jesus Bellido of Granada? I found this lovely example:

http://www.themusicemporium.com/product-detail/product/bellido-flamenco.html

Please share your experiences!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 8 2010 4:47:58

dckh

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

Hi,

I've one blanca 2007, sound very percussive, dry and with quick response, flat neck.
If you like Granada school guitars it's a good option
I've tried 2 blancas in he's shop and 1 negra of is father Manuel.
I choose my blanca ! I fall in love with the sound and the vibration of the guitar, I'm very happy with it now after 3 years, but I remember that I was disapointed with this flat neck the first time.

So you need to try it before.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 8 2010 10:38:27

Arash

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

I tried 2 guitars in his shop and i didn't like them.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 8 2010 11:48:33

ralexander

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From: Halifax, Nova Scotia

RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

Thanks to both of you for your comments - I got some more info on that particular guitar today, turns out it has a 50mm nut which seems narrow compared to most other flamenco guitars I have seen. Unfortunately, there are no flamenco guitars locally, and I will be purchasing online so no trying before buying. I would only really have the option of paying to ship a guitar back if I didn't like it, or reselling of course.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 8 2010 12:47:41

ralexander

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From: Halifax, Nova Scotia

RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to Arash)

Arash - would you mind expanding on your comment? What in particular did you not like about the 2 you played? Were they both blancas?

Feel free to PM if you would prefer. Thanks in advance.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 9 2010 10:09:23

J Wright

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

Hello,

I found this forum whilst doing a search for Jesus Bellido. I have a parlour guitar of his - after a guitar by D. Antonio Torres. I think Jesus Bellido only made two of these, certainly the one I have says 2 of 2. It's a great guitar, wonderfully light but with an amazing sound. I'm not a flamenco player though. My other two guitars are made by George Lowden and the Jesus Bellido easily out plays them - and they're pretty good!

So. A nice guitar. I bought it in Granada.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 22 2010 19:37:11

Escribano

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From: England, living in Italy

RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to J Wright)

quote:

Hello,

I found this forum whilst doing a search for Jesus Bellido.

Welcome, glad you found us.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 22 2010 19:56:37

ralexander

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From: Halifax, Nova Scotia

RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to J Wright)

A couple of Lowdens and a Bellido - sounds like you're in good company =)

Welcome to the Foro!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 22 2010 20:08:34

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

i've been to jesus's place a couple of times. you can tell the man is passionate and obsessed about his work. even on vacation, he doesn't stop working. i've been to a few shops and i would rank him among the top 3.

but if you can, try out a manuel bellido. holy sh******t!!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 22 2010 23:40:22

Estevan

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From: Torontolucía

RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

Jesús Bellido makes superb guitars that are very light and - as Jorge Gómez said of mine last week - "muy, muy flamenco". Also very good quality/price ratio.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 25 2010 2:28:15

minordjango

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

thats a good seller Estevan -- im so interested in a guitar from MAnuel, as i have played a few and they just Rip!

ok played like well and sound loud, but Jesus (I mean Bellido), does amir haddad use one ? hes sound is unreal what modelo is it ?

on my next journey to spain or there abouts id love to get a decent guitar from the bellido clan

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 28 2010 19:49:46

Ron.M

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to minordjango)

Amir Haddad plays one..

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 28 2010 20:10:33

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 28 2010 20:24:58

Estevan

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From: Torontolucía

RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to Ron.M)

quote:

Amir Haddad plays one..

That's a Jose Lopez Bellido (younger brother of Manuel, uncle of Jesus and Miguel Angel). He doesn't really build any more, because of back problems. I saw him recently and he said he's practically retired.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 28 2010 20:28:56

minordjango

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

oh NO !! that means the prices will go through roof !

i guess i had a few lessons with some local dudes (in Granada) they said the guitars they had were like 3000EURO and the modelo they had like 25 years old , i just love the sounds they make up
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ah if i were rich man

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 29 2010 1:20:46

minordjango

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

what about the difference between Manuel and Jesus guitars ?

and consistency of work ?

love to hear any ideas from folk, ive seen a few cheap bellidos ,j

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 29 2010 1:32:55

ralexander

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From: Halifax, Nova Scotia

RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

In an interesting turn of events, I ended up purchasing the Bellido I linked in my original post. I'm expecting it to arrive tomorrow - thanks to everyone for the info!

Jesus sent me an email confirming that he used a 25yr old German spruce top on this one.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 30 2010 0:29:27

minordjango

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

thats great amigo , let us all know how it is , do you mind if i ask how much it was ?

one day ill have to get a bellido

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 30 2010 2:24:58

at_leo_87

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to Estevan)

quote:

as Jorge Gómez said of mine last week - "muy, muy flamenco". Also very good quality/price ratio.

well, not to take credit away from jesus, but you also played very well.

quote:

what about the difference between Manuel and Jesus guitars ?

jesus seems like an experimenter, i would say his guitars sound more modern. the action was a bit higher than im used to but that can be adjusted.

estevan has a jesus with red cypress. it's stunning.

the manuel i tried was very traditional looking and sounding, the action was super low, probably so close to the soundboard that a cigarette wouldnt be able to pass through. super easy to play. first time i've seen anything like that.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 30 2010 16:53:05

orsonw

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to at_leo_87)

I think Johannes at Mundo flamenco has a Bellido for sale. I imagine it will be a good one; in my experience Johannes only sells good guitars.

A couple of second hand Jesus Bellidos and a Manuel Bellido for sale here at a good price-

http://www.spanish-guitar-bristol.co.uk/stock/guitar%20stock.htm

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 30 2010 18:31:34

minordjango

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

thanks guys , the prices arent to bad in england , ill be back there soon so can have a play.

i secretly love a bellido mid to late 80's the 2 i played were insanely flamenco , with a certain clout! of a sound.

the fellow wanted 3000 euro, i wish i had it

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 1 2010 3:23:00

Jim Opfer

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to Guest)

quote:

Amir Haddad plays a Jose Lopez Bellido (thats Jose's headstock in the video clip ... unless Jesus is using the same design).

Yes, that's a Jose Lopez Bellido. Good idea, writing your name on the guitar in case someone picks it up by mistake.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 3 2010 8:17:50

ralexander

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

I received the Jesus Bellido blanca last week - I'm very new to flamenco (not to guitar, been playing 16yrs), but I can say it's a featherweight and incredibly responsive. A very traditional sound to my ears - short sustain but powerful bass tones. I have a long way to go, but I'm starting to figure out how it wants to be played.

minordjango - I paid 2600US plus import taxes and duties.

PS - and the smell AHHHHHHH!!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 6 2010 14:41:44

minordjango

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

gosh i never really heard of Jose, just jesus and manuel , i dont think anyone here has mentioned Jose bellido ,

but if amir haddad plays one thats it !!! - hes sound is huge , anyone know more about joses guitars prices , availability ?

2600$ for jesus bellido sounds great amigo, upload something would be cool

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 8 2010 23:17:52

orsonw

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to minordjango)

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but if amir haddad plays one thats it !!! - hes sound is huge , anyone know more about joses guitars prices , availability ?

Jose is well known and respected but has recently retired from building so you'll need to find a second hand one. I've seen blancas advertised for £2000- £3000.

Don't forget that Amir Haddad himself is responsible for most of the sound, you can hear him play several very different guitars and he always still sounds like himself.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 9 2010 16:20:42

minordjango

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

very good point Orsonw , amirs playihng is sublime at that .

i emailed the shops in England with the 1500 pound guitars, priced well i think , yet didnt here a reply ,

what is the consistency of Jose bellidos work ? be a shame to order one and not be able to play it !!!, any notable features people can tell me about , as i play classical a lot , id been interested on the classical bellido and just put tap plates on it .

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 10 2010 5:37:45

minordjango

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

in particular jesus bellido , "traditional guitar" as i saw one for sale in france , tempting!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 10 2010 22:06:23

minordjango

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

yeah i agree, hence why trying to get as much info about the Jesus bellido traditional modelo first , unfortunately not in the situation to try before i buy , and its hard without a functional lguitar.

not sure if i can wait another 3 months.

arash why didnt you seem interested in the bellidos ? and what was the prices in Bellidos shop ? for his basic models if he has any ?

any other experiences would be nice to hear, with Jesus Bellido guitars

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 11 2010 7:07:00

ricecrackerphoto

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RE: Jesus Bellido (in reply to ralexander)

i have a jesus bellido and it's his taller model which is shop model, supposedly a guitar that his assistants had a greater hand in making, which is why it is unsigned. He no longer offers the taller.

paid $2100 for it three years ago and i am very lucky in that this guitar is exactly what i wanted. i love shopping around and trying out guitars and the only one i've played that was a serious contender as a replacement was a jose lopez bellido.

jesus is an experimenter but the guitars still remain traditional. pedro cortes played my jesus earlier this year and loved it. he said he couldn't play a lot of guitars because of how hard he plays.

i've heard it said that you must really dig in to bring out the sound from a guitar from granada. with mine at least, it's very true.

doug

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 11 2010 22:19:55